Radicality of a third-party chart 1 by nad Hello, In considering whether a horary chart regarding a third party is radical, do you look at the original horary chart only? Do you also need to check the radicality of the turned chart? For instance, if Saturn is retrograde on the third cusp and the querent is asking a question regarding his sibling the turned chart will have retrograde Saturn on the ASC. How do you deal with this? Thanks for replies. Quote Tue May 05, 2009 9:14 pm
Re: Radicality of a third-party chart 2 by johannes susato nad wrote:Hello, In considering whether a horary chart regarding a third party is radical, do you look at the original horary chart only? Whether a question is radical or not, is to be judged by the radical ascendant only, in my opinion. Only the ascendant is the reference for synchronicity between time, question, 'here' and the stars! . . . if Saturn is retrograde on the third cusp and the querent is asking a question regarding his sibling the turned chart will have retrograde Saturn on the ASCThen you could possibly say,"'a perfect time (if the ascendant is radical and essentially and accidentally dingified), but the answer could be a little disappointing Saturn being retrograde in the radical horoscope's third house, the new Ascendant. Johannes Quote Wed May 06, 2009 12:22 am
3 by mojo The idea of radicality of a third-party chart seems strange even from the fact that in one house system it will be radical while in another it won't. Of course, this is true only for succedent and cadent houses. Quote Wed May 06, 2009 4:19 am
4 by Andrew Bevan The chart is only scrutinized for radicality in terms of the relationship between the Lord of the Hour and the Ascendant or it's Lord. While there may be other ways in which a chart 'proves' itself, this relationship says something about how 'apt' the moment is - as if we were examining a piano for its tuning to decide whether the instrument is fit to be played or not. You may take your chances with a piano that is out of key. At some pubs you will get away with it! But in that case choose your clientele with care! http://www.astronor.com Quote Wed May 06, 2009 6:44 am
5 by nad Thank you all. mojo: I hear you. But again, aside from radicallity of a turned chart, the interpretation of the turned chart has that limitation of variable cadent and succedent house cusps. And as a beginner in hororay, I don't know how to rectify this issue. I guess one should find the house system that feels right for him/her and take a leap of faith. Quote Thu May 07, 2009 9:48 pm
6 by Deb Hi Nad Even in a third party chart there has to be a querent - someone to take the ascendant. It is the radical ascendant which relates to issues concerning corruption in the question. Also, issues of angularity always relate to the radical chart too, (so a planet in the 3rd house of a chart dealing with a 3rd house issue, is still cadent, even though the 3rd cusp might act as a sort of turned ascendant). Hope that explains what you wanted to know Deb Quote Thu May 07, 2009 10:17 pm