I've just done a little search round the internet and it seems Barca will be wearing their usual blue and red while ManU will wear white. So using the colour method I assume Barca get the Asc. This conflicts with ManU getting the Asc as trophy holders. How annoying!

Ficina wrote:A possibly interesting point to note is that Jupiter L1 perfects its conjunction (at long last!) with Neptune during the course of the game. Is this a good or a bad thing?

Neptune surely wouldn't give an edge to Jupiter...

My experience is that antisica testimonies will have to be partile to be of any use and if my memory serves right, didn't we repeatedly witness last season that anti-POF conjuct AC (even partile) was utterly useless or meaningless?

In this case Moon opp POF is of no use unfortunately

Because there's no clear favourite, Moon opp POF here can be interpreted as a draw, rather than underdogs beating faves.

Neptune surely wouldn't give an edge to Jupiter...

I agree. If it has any effect at all I think it would be negative for the Jupiter team. Have we decided who they are yet by the way?

I also agree with what you say about antiscia testimonies.

The Moon's sextile to Mercury perfects at the very end of the game. A late goal perhaps? 29? on the MC also suggests "lateness".

Is anybody ready to make a prediction yet?

With Moon in 8th house I've observed that the teams are playing in a safe manner and avoiding risks. Both teams will play a speculative game (Mars is on 5th house cusp) waiting for opponent mistake. The winner might be a result of a penalty lottery.

Looking on the M.United chart I think that they have a good position and there are aspects showing a possible succes.

Looking on the M.United chart I think that they have a good position and there are aspects showing a possible succes.

Using 24 April chart, I see they're on the eve of their Mars return. Sounds good!

I don't see anything significant for Barcelona (29 Nov 1899). Interesting chart though with a massive pile-up in Sagittarius. Could be another reason for giving them the Asc perhaps?

Ficina wrote:I don't see anything significant for Barcelona (29 Nov 1899). Interesting chart though with a massive pile-up in Sagittarius. Could be another reason for giving them the Asc perhaps?

Yes maybe. I would love to give them the AC in this chart but listening to the Five Live's preview on the Final last night, pundits seemed to agree that ManU were a more complete, better team than Barcelona.

I'm still working on Fergie's chart ( I had to read a biography first) but his chart looks OK on the day while I don't see anything significant in Barcelona's manager's chart.

I don't know if the game will be decided within 90mins but my (biased) feeling is that ManU can carry it off whatever the chart may look and lift the trophy in the end.

The Moon's sextile to Mercury perfects at the very end of the game. A late goal perhaps? 29? on the MC also suggests "lateness".

Very interesting observation

I made a correction to my initial chart report. The Sun does not rule the fire triplicity by night. It is the triplicity of Jupiter. However, Jupiter and the Sun are in the same triplicity and this appears to add up in the same way. Radicality proven by triplicity tend to share things around.

I have made two bets. The one is for a draw after 90 minutes. The second bet covers my first one by going for either a draw or a win for ManU. Good Luck everyone!

Although I am a big fan of Five Live (especially Alan Green!), I've decided to stay with the colour method for finals and give Barca the Asc. So they are Jupiter and ManU are Mercury.

Since Mercury also rules the MC (signifying the trophy or the honour and glory of winning etc), this can only be to the advantage of ManU. The trophy is going back to them - Mercury retro.

Late goal in normal time? Or extra time and possibly penalties? I'm not sure but I hope it's not penalties just because they're so nerve-racking!

Anyway I will be cheering on ManU to win, however long it takes

Ficina wrote: Since Mercury also rules the MC (signifying the trophy or the honour and glory of winning etc), this can only be to the advantage of ManU. The trophy is going back to them - Mercury retro.

Believe it or not, this was exactly one of the first thoughts which occurred to me upon waking this morning!

With no clear faves and playing on nuetral ground, neither team can claim the AC and the 10th can be the most important house, rather than the usual AC-DC axis. It's more about winning honour, achievement, particulary because this is the Final of a very prestigious competition.

Transiting Mercury is partile conjunct Cristiano Ronaldo's N node, Van dar Sar's Venus, and Fergie's Saturn at 22 Taurus where there's also Rooney's Mercury. It's also applying to the Moon in the ManU chart rectified by Ficina.

Believe it or not, this was exactly one of the first thoughts which occurred to me upon waking this morning!

Great minds!

Transiting Mercury is partile conjunct Cristiano Ronaldo's N node

Apparently there's a bet for Ronaldo to score the only goal - 28/1. Could be worth a flutter if we think it might be a low-scoring game. The bookies are expecting ?25million to be bet on this game

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Barelona 2 - 0 ManU

Well, it fooled me. If there is anything in the chart that sent me the wrong way, it must be POF square an infortune. I guess there's always something to learn.

Can't win 'em all!