Hi all

i have casted a question in relation to my teeths. i have tried 3 years ago to do something about it, Going to the dentist, however due to the expensive treatment in UK, i visited a dentist in Budapest.

Nothwithstanding, this time i decided 3 years after to focus on my teeth and started to make enquiries about the cost of implant abroad. So this saturday i am meeting a budapest dentist in London

As the costs are extravagant and like of savings, i will try to raise a loan application to cover the treatment but applying in budapest hence my question

Question was casted 9th July 2009, bristol, time 9:56 am
Asc virgo 8 degre 3
Significator Mercury in 10th house cancer sign however applying 5 degre to next house 11th house cancer but mercury is under combustion (sun 17degre17)

Teeth lord 2 Mercury and should i take saturn representing Teeth, than saturn is in the ascendant aspecting mercury!

co-significator moon in 5th house with no aspect

Lord 8th (money from others) Jupiter retrograde in 6th house (house of health), does not look positive at all

so does it mean that i will finance my own treatment by making some savings Lord 2 mercury sextile saturn

Sun is your 12 ruler which might have to do with if you'll need to be in hospital for it, it will go okay.

What I'm looking at: You, Ascendant, Virgo. Your money, house 2, also Virgo. The bank's money, house 8, Pisces.

And there's nothing going on between Mercury and Jupiter, nor is the Moon giving much help, though its next aspect will be a conjunction to Jupiter.

Mercury is in marginally better shape than Jupiter is, but Mercury is combust, and they aren't in aspect.

I don't think you'll get the loan now, but in Regiomontanus houses, the house cusps at least are at the very end of signs so things might change a little ways down the road.

Interestingly, both Mars (surgery) and Venus (appearance) are at the MC, and Venus is square the Ascendant!

But no, I don't think you'll get the loan now. Mercury is stronger than Jupiter, but there doesn't seem to be anything bringing them together, and the combustion isn't helping Mercury's case. OTOH, Mercury is sextile the Ascendant from 11, and that sometimes implies 'help from heaven' or a lucky break.

Please let us know how it turns out.

Teeth lord 2 Mercury and should I take Saturn representing Teeth, than Saturn is in the ascendant aspecting mercury!

I would definitely use Saturn as the significator of the tooth problem as it is fitting and rules the 6th house of physical afflictions. Mercury (you) is combust but moving towards a sextile with Saturn in the first house, which it rules, so I think you are quite determined about this treatment going ahead. On the other hand the Moon is currently VOC but eventually conjoins Jupiter as its next aspect before changing signs. So maybe there will be a delay or you have to subsidise this yourself more than you expected? In any case, be careful about making decisions too quickly because you have Mars on the midheaven and Saturn in the 1st house. It just might be in your interest to wait a while or check out some other options.

Good luck to you, and please keep us informed.

Deb

Hi zohra,

I basically agree with everything you said and would also add that in addition to Mercury being in an applying sextile to Saturn, it also receives Saturn in dignity and exaltation, which might suggest the dental treatment/dentist, whatever it turns out to be, eventually falls into place for you.

However, I also have to say I would be a little leery of traveling out of the country for the treatment. The last aspect the Moon makes is a square to Mars (in fall in Taurus), ruler of the 9th and also intercepted (trapped?) in the 9th of foreign travel.

Also, PofF is in the 8th and makes a nice trine with your ruler Mercury, which might offer a little hope for the loan or part of it to eventually come through, but it's not strong enough per se to depend on, and I agree you should probably plan on your own savings/funds being the main financial resource for the treatment.

Hope it all works out,
Carol

P.S.: Deb and I must have posted at the same time, and after reading hers, it confirms the rose-colored glasses I suspected I had on with my comment about Saturn in the 1st maybe being a positive in this case, so I took it out.

Ouah your comments confirm what i tought but could not be expressed in Horary.

i was reading back the information for the first house

In Medical Matters:
The head and face: eyes, ears, mouth, hair, nose, tongue, teeth;

this fit the scenario but having saturn there is so predominant and related to my teeths queries and being in mercury Lord sign highlight the need that if i open my mouth my teeths are exposed. All the players fit the chart


[olivia

Sun is your 12 ruler which might have to do with if you'll need to be in hospital for it, it will go okay

no will only spend 3 days in and out of the dentist chair

And there's nothing going on between Mercury and Jupiter, nor is the Moon giving much help, though its next aspect will be a conjunction to Jupiter.

I did spot the financial problem, without a loan, i will need to do some savings and pay in stages

I don't think you'll get the loan now, but in Regiomontanus houses, the house cusps at least are at the very end of signs so things might change a little ways down the road.

do you thing being at last degre shows the imminent meeting with the dentist this saturday

Interestingly, both Mars (surgery) and Venus (appearance) are at the MC, and Venus is square the Ascendant

oh did not take into account Mars and yet debs mentioned "precaution"

OTOH, Mercury is sextile the Ascendant from 11, and that sometimes implies 'help from heaven' or a lucky break.

i really need a hand from god



Debs

would definitely use Saturn as the significator of the tooth problem as it is fitting and rules the 6th house of physical afflictions

Yes i wanted to use Saturn but i was quite apprehensive seeing him sitting in the ascendant. I tought that being there was not a good omen to read the chart

Mercury (you) is combust but moving towards a sextile with Saturn in the first house, which it rules, so I think you are quite determined about this treatment going ahead

oh yes I am before losing all my teeths. This becomes a constant anxieties since 3 years ago. I just want my smile back

On the other hand the Moon is currently VOC but eventually conjoins Jupiter as its next aspect before changing signs

Gosh did not realise...

So maybe there will be a delay or you have to subsidise this yourself more than you expected

For this treatment, i will need to visit the dentist 3 times in budapest separating by 6 months until the implant graft to the bones. So it may be appropriate this Delay.
Additionally, i can see the scenario that i will need to provide cash a large sum of ?6k for the first treatment which i was planned to start in August. So very tight control on the resources (need to tight my belt)

any case, be careful about making decisions too quickly because you have Mars on the midheaven and Saturn in the 1st house. It just might be in your interest to wait a while or check out some other options.

Can you explain more, what do Mars & Saturn tell me positioned in those houses/signs? and which message and caution they want to tell me... I have already check every other avenues, and it is the only dentist firm that offer a financial package to allow me to make monthly repayment....
to carol

However, I also have to say I would be a little leery of traveling out of the country for the treatment. The last aspect the Moon makes is a square to Mars (in fall in Taurus), ruler of the 9th and also intercepted (trapped?) in the 9th of foreign travel

Hopefully not, they can ask a ransom for me, i am too insignificant and the french deserted me longtime ago. I guess it may be a warning with passport in case of being stolen and or lost

Also, PofF is in the 8th and makes a nice trine with your ruler Mercury, which might offer a little hope for the loan or part of it to eventually come through, but it's not strong enough per se to depend on, and I agree you should probably plan on your own savings/funds being the main financial resource for the treatment.

Did not see the aspect PofF and yes you are right, it seems that i will need to budget my financial resource for the treatment But i am determined to get my back

thank you all for your feedbacks, will keep you informed ASAP

Debs, olivia and carol

wanted to bring you some feedback and make you smile. Did travel to London with the intention to visit the dentist.....

However instead to go directly to my sister, i decided to revisit some food stores in wembley.

I parked my car in a public land where all display ticket machines were broken.....

Going back to the car, gosh i cant see the car, it was towed away. It took me 4 hours to get back the car and all my money for my weekend has been swallowed for the return of precious one and no money for the dentist appointment

What a tragedy, so carol when you mentioned issues with travelling here it was....

hoping to go back to London in 2weeks time but by coach

Poor you - what an awful weekend. Thanks for letting us know the upshot of the horary and I hope you get some better luck soon!

Deb

Thanks so much for the update, zohra. Sure hope it's all smoother sailing from here on out. Please continue to keep us posted!

Zohra,

Now what a kick in the teeth this must be for you. No pun intended.Thats so tough and picky! The Law steps in and give you a piece of paper - takes all your money plus your car and your time! Awful day for you! Saturn has a big say in this chart! A waiting game for you!

Jk