Finding the killing planet

This is done by making a almuten chart. The killing planet is what I call a complex almuten where you find the almuten over a variety of points on the chart. You take the ruler of the sign of that degree and give 5 points, exalted ruler 4 points, all three triplicity rulers 3 points each, bound ruler, 2 points (I use Egyptian bounds), and decan ruler 1 point. You then add all the numbers for each planet and the planet with the most points is the killing planet. These points with degrees from this chart are (note - after posting my formatting was off. If you quote this post, you it should be easier to read my horrible attempt at a table):

The ascendant
20Canc58
Sat Jup Mars Sun Ven Merc Moon
4 3,2 3,1 5,3

Ruler of the Ascendant
Moon 29Canc13
Sat Jup Mars Sun Ven Merc Moon
4 3,2 3 5,3,1

Part of Death
26Vir26
Sat Jup Mars Sun Ven Merc Moon
3,2 3 5,4,1 3

Ruler of the Part of Death
Mercury 02Gem16
Sat Jup Mars Sun Ven Merc Moon
3 3,1 5,3,2

4th house
17Vir52
Sat Jup Mars Sun Ven Merc Moon
2 3 3,1 5,4 3

Ruler of the 4th house
Mercury 02Gem16
Sat Jup Mars Sun Ven Merc Moon
3 3,1 5,3,2

Triplicity ruler of the 4th
Venus 26Gem12
Sat Jup Mars Sun Ven Merc Moon
3,2 3 1 5,3

8th sign from the Sun
12Cap27
Sat Jup Mars Sun Ven Merc Moon
5 2 4,3,1 3 3

Ruler of the 8th sign
Saturn 16Pic42
Sat Jup Mars Sun Ven Merc Moon
5,1 3 4,3 2 3

Total
Sat Jup Mars Sun Ven Merc Moon
16 29 29 1 24 49 29

Mercury is the killing planet.

Now the directing.

To find the death, you direct the ascendant or Hyleg to the killing planet. I don't think in this case directing the Hyleg to the killing planet will give a reasonable date since they are so close. Even with the complicated math, I don't think it will ever come close since by longitude they are only about 10 degrees apart. Maybe I'm assuming too much, but I'm going to go with the ascendant here.

First we find the oblique ascension for the ascendant. For this you take the Right Ascension of the MC and add 90 degrees. I do the math by decimal by the way to make it easier.

RA of the MC is 333*48'50 (333.8139)
333.8139+90=63.8139

The we find the Oblique Ascension of Mercury.
First, find the tan of the birthplace (54.2833) and the tan of the declination of Mercury (20.0182).

Tan birthplace 54.2833 = 1.3907917
Tan declination of Merc. 20.0182 = 0.3643300
1.3907917 x 0.3643300 = 0.5067071
Then I take this number and calculate the SIN-1 of it. This is called the Ascensional Difference.
AD = 30.4447 (30*26'40')

Take the AD and add it to the RA of the planet if the declination is south or subtract it when the declination is north. In this chart, Mercury's declination is north, so we'll subtract it from Mercury's RA. Again I'll use decimals.

RA of Mercury is 60.2289

60.2289-30.4447= 29.7842

29.7842 then is the Oblique Ascension of Mercury.

Now we just take the OA of the ASC and subtract the OA of Mercury.

So a conjunction of the ASC to Mercury is 34.0299 (34*1'47"). Using Ptolemy's key of 1 degree a year, I think this comes out to Late June 1999. So, a conjunction is about 10 years off by my calculation. Janus shows a conjunction at August 27, 2000 for what it's worth.

My last post mentioned the Neptunian direction to Mars-Mc-Saturn suggesting a late 1995 date. Mars-Mc-Saturn will direct to Asc in 1999-2000, Uranus in 2004-2005, and Sun in 2006-2007. Of these three, due to 4 stations of Uranus in 2006 and 2007 contacting its natal position, Pluto and Mars-Mc-Saturn , I am inclined to pick the 2006-2007 timeframe as another likely period when the accident and death occurred. I might spend more time to narrow this period further if the 2006-2007 timeframe is confirmed.

Deb,

For the purposes of those of us who use solar returns, is it possible to say whether the man lived his life near his birthplace? Or did he move somewhere else?

Hi Ellen

I'll give that information at a later stage, but for now I want to see if this can be done just from the birth chart, without knowing where he would be in the future. If we were going to outline the periods of danger for several years ahead, as earlier astrologers did, we wouldn't necessarily have that information.

Regards
Deb

With reference to where the accident happened - I wonder if we have any A*C*G or locational astrology experts, who might be able to suggest places on the globe where this man was most likely to have an accident?

Just a thought
Deb

With reference to where the accident happened - I wonder if we have any A*C*G or locational astrology experts, who might be able to suggest places on the globe where this man was most likely to have an accident?

I'm no expert (though I do have an over-active imagination with my mighty Saturn in the 9th on Altair), but taking a look at the ACG chart we can find Mars/Asc, Pluto/Asc ,Saturn/Desc lines running through the Himalaya mountains, somewhere around Katmandu, Nepal. Since the natal chart has Saturn cnj the Mc, then according to a certain ancient astrological authority, the native might get killed by falling from high places.

Saturn in a water sign might be frozen water , aka ice or snow. One could speculate that the native was traveling in the mountains or climbing, and accidently fell from great heights. Alas.

A different imaginary option (one of many) would be New Delhi, where the natal chart has Uranus at the Asc, and Jupiter on FS Aldebaran on the Mc (parans). Could he have been invovled in some military espionage/intelligence mission (well he does have natal Sun on the cusp of the 12th of spies and secrets- CIA? MI5? Mossad?) which lead him to his unfortunate death, hence the "secrecy"?

Excellent exercise, Deb ? I for one appreciate the non-celebrity chart! This is a tough one to crack using (Ptolemaic) primary directions to the hyleg, though. It is easy enough to see the natal indications of a violent death, but there are precious few directions that could actualize this natal promise within the given time-frame.

Using whole-sign, equal, Porphyry, Alcabitius, Campanus or Placidus houses, the role of hyleg falls to the Moon. Only Regiomontanus puts the Sun far enough (?) into the 11th to make it hyleg.

The malefics are in near-exact opposition on the angles, with the Sun closely applying to square them both. It is almost inconceivable that any other point should become the anaereta (and Saturn ruling the 8th makes it even more so). And yet, there is no contact between the Moon and the malefics by direct motion until the native would be in his sixties ? and we know he died before age 45. There would be a converse direction (in the traditional sense) in his late teens, but again, you said he died as an adult.

The Sun reached the square of the malefics in very early childhood, and then their trine/sextile around 37-38 (or, by converse motion, around 20-22). The latter hits fall in the appropriate time-frame, but would they really kill even if the Sun were hyleg (which I do have trouble accepting)? Perhaps they would, given the natal square.

This chart has me so puzzled, I am toying with the idea of taking out my Placidean box of toys ? something I would never normally do. If I write another post full of italics and CAPITALS, it will be because I have donned my Worsdale persona.

Later:
I don't know what I was thinking when I wrote that the Sun would be in the 12th using equal houses. Equal and Regiomontanus are the two systems (among the older ones) which have the Sun in the 11th.

Using Placidean directions -i.e in mundo with Placido's key- Saturn squares Sun in July 1991 while Mars squares Sun in June 1993.

I would prefer this, because Mars is a night planet in a day chart.

Someone tried to use "under the pole" directions? Martin? I don't feel like to do calculation by hand....

margherita

according to a certain ancient astrological authority, the native might get killed by falling from high places.

Saturn in a water sign might be frozen water , aka ice or snow. One could speculate that the native was traveling in the mountains or climbing, and accidently fell from great heights.

I, too, think that he may have fallen from a high place, a cliff, a mountain, (or fallen into a pit - Mars, Pluto, Uranus on the cusp of the IV) during a journey. A natural disaster, or adverse weather conditions, may have been involved. Water must have been in some ways involved too.

Here's another image of the chart - for those members who prefer to see proportional houses

Based on

1. Secondary progressions
2. SR for the place of birth (no other choice but using the place of birth)
3. Transits
4. Profections

and - last - primary directions (I found PD to the hyleg difficult to use to determine time of danger for the native)

I believe that the event happened in 1995. If I were to choose an approximate time range, I'd pick 1993-1996.

God willing, during this time the native went on a trip, during which he fell from a high place, a cliff, a mountain or into a pit. It must have been deep, or he was literally buried under something. Adverse weather conditions or a natural disaster could have been involved.

Since he has a Sun/North Node natal conjunction, this might mean that some sort of fated event was in store for him. Not something good, however, as they are on the 6th/12th house axis. Secondary progressed NN was conjunct his natal Sun around 1991-1992. In the solar return of 1993, he has a Sun/SN conjunction. If we want to use the outer planets, at that time the Neptune/Uranus conjunction in Capricorn was opposing his Ascendant. So, my guess would be that the accident happened between 1991-1994, due to intense nodal activity.