Yes, I have heard that Sedna ?caused? this earthquake. I don?t think much of this at all to be honest. I know nothing about Sedna and it isn?t something I have even really thought about. My time is full enough trying to understand the major planets we generally use in the mundane charts. We know virtually nothing about Sedna so how can we possibly hope to understand its part in a catastrophe like the tsunami.
Sedna is the most distant object we know of. It is at least three times the distance from Earth than Neptune or Pluto is. The Moon is our closest object. We can see it and watch its phases. We can feel its effects. (I find it very difficult to sleep on a full Moon.) Even non-astrologers/astronomers know about gravitational pull. Information about the Moon has been recorded for thousands of years. It is totally beyond me to understand how astrologers can look to something like Sedna to explain this catastrophe while ignoring what is right in front of them.
I consider myself a traditional astrologer and most of the time I don?t use the outer three planets. However, in mundane astrology I have seen enough evidence to suggest to me that they do play a part, particularly Uranus. There are astrologers who have done the research over many years and reached these conclusions. But where is the research on Sedna to make such a statement? This seems to happen every time there is a new discovery. It certainly happened with Chiron. I have to wonder whether it is because people fail to take the time to really understand the deeper meanings of what we already have. If they cannot see an immediate explanation staring them in the face, they start looking elsewhere. Cookbook explanations will never suffice in charts of this nature. We have to take the time to look more deeply into how it all plays out with what is right in front of us. I find mundane charts fascinating. We have a chart of a particular event that happened. That it happened is a fact so there is no disputing the chart. But working out how it all played out in the chart is the fascinating bit. It?s like those murder shows you see where they have gathered the whole group in the room and you know that each one of them took part in the murder but have to unravel exactly what the relationship was between the group and how that relationship caused the murder. Now all we have to do is learn to do it prior to the event thereby preventing the murder in the first place.

Ditto to everything Sue has said here. I saw Jonathan Cainier on prime time TV last week, where most of his feature focussed on his assertion that the tsunami disaster was a result of the discovery of Sedna. I wondered how many viewers felt (like I did) that it was tasteless to see a celebrity astrologer pumping himself up on the back of such a disaster with nothing more than a speculative theory that has no testing or evidence.

By comparison I was impressed by Robert Nolle?s prediction which is linked to in Haki?s post above. The general public aren?t aware of the difference in effort and detail that exists between astrologers who are scrutinising a lot of complex factors to make sensible judgements before the event, and those of popular astrologers who cling to the most simplistic level of detail that can be appreciated by the widest number of people after the event. As a result, this theoretical link with Sedna will undoubtedly become very widespread.

(I?m also impressed by the very sensitive way Richard Nolle assessed his prediction in hindsight. I think this disaster has left most of the world feeling humbled, so it seems quite inappropriate for any astrologer to use it to trumpet their own abilities.)

To view Catherine Bennett's original attack in The Guardian, cross to the online version of the newspaper. It follows another anti-astrology piece which ran a few months before, by another journalist.

I've written this letter back. They may not publish it, but I thought it might add something new to your shared discussion about tsunami predictions. The point The Guardian (and everyone) usually misses is that astrology is question based. If you ask the question, you'll probably get the answer, but who (apart from local astrologers) was asking specifically about either a) earthquakes or b) Sri Lanka, Thailand and Indonesia, on December 26th 2004? Anyway. Here's the letter!


To the Letters Editor, The Guardian.

In response to recent anti-astrology articles in The Guardian, here are some public predictions astrologers made about Boxing Day and December 2004:

Richard Nolle wrote that there would be risk of storms, flooding and seismic upheaval, associated with the full moon on December 26th.

Jean Hinson Lall wrote that on Boxing Day the world would be schooled in the laws of water.

Lynda Hill wrote that Saturn was returning to a fateful degree at the end of 2004, noting that the last time this happened, hurricanes ravaged Florida and there were earthquakes in Japan and floods in New Zealand.

Lisa Dale Miller wrote that Boxing Day would open the way for globalising strong emotions.

When former Cambodian king Norodom Sihanouk asked about the future of his country, he says he was warned of the tsunami by his astrologer.

I write the monthly horoscope column for international editions of Cosmopolitan and Vogue, and a blog, The Astrologer?s Diary:

December 14th - ?Has there ever been an end of year detox quite like the one we are seeing in 2004? In true Plutonian fashion, it is the kind of rubbish removal that takes weeks as well. If you are dreaming about decaying food, flies, corpses, dying (keep going it gets better) horse shit, poison or gigantic bombs ? well. Welcome to the world of Pluto.?

December 16th - ?A whole lot of shaking is going on this December. Not to mention a whole lot of wobbling on the spot. An unexpected event (the equivalent of a giant hand shaking up the snowdome of your life, or a huge lightning bolt suddenly hitting your cornflakes) may do the deed.?

December 26th ? ? You may very well experience Boxing Day just like a real-life boxing match.?

The second entry, on December 16th, drew a reply from a woman whose family had lost everything in the tsunami, and who recognised herself in the forecast.

The astrologer Richard Nolle is in the business of predicting earthquakes and so he was able to say something specific about December 26th. Other astrologers are required to forecast the zeitgeist in a more general way. Across the board last month, a signficant number of us got it right, in those general terms our readers expect.

Jessica Adams

Hi Jessica,

I didn't know about the Catherine Bennett article. It took some finding so I'm posting the link for anyone who's interested.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Columnists/Co ... 65,00.html

Thanks for sharing your comments.

Deb

A couple of hours after I wrote my previous post about Sedna, I opened my mail to find my astrology association magazine. To my amusement, the feature story for this month was on Sedna. The article was written prior to the tsunami so there is no correlation or investigation as to its role. But it seems like this object is the flavour of the month.

I have just been reading Richard Nolle's predictions for January on his website. There appears to be the potential for some serious problems ahead. One time period he spoke directly about was between Jan 7th and 13th. Referring to an astro-locality map, he pinpointed Adelaide (Australia) as a potential problem. In the last couple of days, some areas just outside of Adelaide have had the worst bushfires in about 22 years. So far, 10 people have lost their lives with a number of people still missing. The bushfires started on the 10th January, the day of the 'SuperMoon'.

Just a note, but I thought I'd point out that Neptune in dead center in the First house of that chart... noticed it had been a bit ignored, adn I think it is rather a rellevant indicator.

Granny

today anohter Tsunami hit Indonesia, estimates are that 87 people pwere killed, it was a 6 foot (as opposed to 30 foot) wave. no warning system exists on the Island of Java as yet, so people only had previous experience to warn them, many missing, I'm looking for the data. I'm fairly certain this one should show up in the previous chart in some manner so thought I'd attach it to the original discussion.

Granny