AMANDA KNOX 1 by SGFoxe This is a draft I'm working up: My memories of Henry James? Portrait of a Lady brought into sharper focus this week by the Amanda Knox saga which I have been following avidly, having heretofore no patience for Gossip Girl. My favorite aphorism [from Kaufman?s translation of Nietzsche?s Avesta] That which does not kill me makes me stronger I commend to this latter day Isabel Archer and further advise her to take good notes. Her journals will go nuclear in France ? the frogs love prison literature, it?s so, how you say in English, existential? ? Villon, Celine, Camus. The major strategy of her defense appeal is to paint a more compelling portrait than the one the Kerchner?s sold, which, is, admittedly, not incredible. Meredith is Madame Merle a major literary shape shifter; consider: Meredith as the she-devil ? pc considerations aside, the Brits have mastered the arts of hypocrisy, that particular kind of brit snarkiness wherein one projects one sins on others, eg scapegoating, hence Kerchner complaining to her parents of Knox?s promiscuity: Kerchner & Guede were pretty hot as a couple, and Guede as louche a dude as you?d care to meet in this lifetime, a latter day international LeRoy Brown kind a guy. I?ve been following this astrologically, because, guess what, I?m an astrologer. Every one of the principal actors in this?Sollecito, Guede and Knox had birth date & place available somewhere on the net ? birth times no, but date and place ? Meredith?s birth information available only as specific as MONTH (February, 1986) and place which is narrowed down to Southwark in South London. At first I considered her Aquarian, but as I read the news releases and background information, 8th house pisces with moon in scorpio ? conjunct Guede?s ? and their mars/venus in definite hard core rocknroll position equals a birthdate and time of February 28, 2:41 pm UT. Does anyone have better birth info on Kerchner? Quote Sun Dec 06, 2009 4:25 pm
2 by PallasAthene http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Meredith_Kercher 28 Dec 1985 There is a time for delivery of the verdict on Knox, 4 Dec 09, 2345 local time, Perugia. Can this be examined for a just verdict? 1st and 10th both ruled by mercury, 4th and 7th share jupiter, so I wouldn't know how to proceed. Quote Tue Dec 08, 2009 11:51 am
3 by SGFoxe Sorry for the delay in replying -- that 28 Dec 1985 date in the wikipedia is bogus -- if you follow its footnote it refers to some governmental document of british births wherein meredith is listed as "February 1986, Southwark" It isn't that we don't have our share of killers stateside, but amanda's friends in seattle all testify to her sweetness in terms of being character witnesses, no one here in Chicago is standing up for local bluebeard Drew Peterson -- maybe meredith got on her last nerve, but we will never get an insight into the motive -- that sex orgy seems from here to be the feverish erotic fantasy of a corrupt judge -- we can't know the motive until we know the victim's horoscope & how elicited such a powerful animus energy. please let me know if there are any memorials to meredith this month in london and when, she would have been 24 this month -- pisces or aquarius? Quote Sat Feb 06, 2010 4:33 pm
4 by Tom that sex orgy seems from here to be the feverish erotic fantasy of a corrupt judge - From what I've read it is the feverish erotic fantasy of a screwball prosecutor. He's tried this before, unsuccessfully, in other cases. How many satanic sex cults does Italy have anyway? I don't know that Amanda is innocent. I really have my doubts about that, but I don't buy the sex/cult/ritual stuff at all. Tom Quote Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:30 am
5 by margherita Tom wrote:that sex orgy seems from here to be the feverish erotic fantasy of a corrupt judge - From what I've read it is the feverish erotic fantasy of a screwball prosecutor. He's tried this before, unsuccessfully, in other cases. How many satanic sex cults does Italy have anyway? I don't know that Amanda is innocent. I really have my doubts about that, but I don't buy the sex/cult/ritual stuff at all. Tom In Italy we don't have Anglosaxon legal system. Judges have not power, evidently there is some evidence she was guilty of the murder. margherita Traditional astrology at http://heavenastrolabe.wordpress.com Quote Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:58 am
6 by Tom Hi Margharite, In the US the judge just presides or that's all he's supposed to do.It's up to the prosecution to make his case and the defense to refute it. Judges are the final say in disputes and some judges have been known to interfere, and they are usually overturned on appeal. From what I gathered in the news the Italian and American criminal system's principles are pretty much the same. The procedures are different though. I don't know all the details of the case and I certainly am not familiar with the Italian legal system. Amanda Knox received a lot of unfavorable publicity here at first and every photo showed her smiling or laughing as though she had no cares at all. I didn't buy into that. Also it is well known that people react to grief and shock differently. So her behavior afterward is not an issue. But her defense, or what I read of it, seemed weak. Somebody killed that young woman, and Amanda and her friends seemed to be the only ones with opportunity. I also read that the prosecutor has tried this sex cult ritual thing before on another American, but the charges didn't stick. I'm not buying that either. If she did it, and I tend to think she did, she deserves what she got. Tom Quote Sun Feb 07, 2010 1:13 pm
7 by margherita I did not follow the case. I don't like murder pages in newspapers. I just want to tell you my only time I visited Perugia was for our guest, Deborah Houlding lecture, and the first thing people told me when I got off the bus and asked the road for the centre of the city: "be careful at night, don't go around alone." I'm sure there is no satanic cult, but all these students without parents and far from home, it's a mess, alcool, drugs, and all the rest an adult can easily imagine. margherita Traditional astrology at http://heavenastrolabe.wordpress.com Quote Sun Feb 07, 2010 2:58 pm
8 by PallasAthene SGFoxe wrote:if you follow its footnote it refers to some governmental document of british births wherein meredith is listed as "February 1986, Southwark" In England you must register a birth within 6 weeks. So she was born in the 6 weeks PRIOR to the footnote date. "Meanwhile, they will cherish her for ever in their hearts ? and plan a quiet celebration of her life every year on her birthday, December 28," http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-storie ... -21878654/ What's wrong with the Dec 28 chart exactly? Quote Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:23 pm
9 by Eddy Tom wrote: In the US the judge just presides or that's all he's supposed to do.It's up to the prosecution to make his case and the defense to refute it. Judges are the final say in disputes and some judges have been known to interfere, and they are usually overturned on appeal. From what I gathered in the news the Italian and American criminal system's principles are pretty much the same. The procedures are different though.This is correct. There are two systems in law. Inquisitorial (most countries on the European Continent and Civil law countries), and Adversary/Accusatorial (usually Anglo-Saxon countries and Common law countries). On the Continent the judge has more power. Here's a brief explanation. http://law.jrank.org/pages/7663/Inquisi ... ystem.html Italy converted to the adversary system some 20 years ago. Quote Mon Feb 08, 2010 4:04 pm
10 by SGFoxe PallasAthene thank you for the references -- i will now accept the 28 Dec 1985 birthdate since your documentation seems authoritative Sonja Quote Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:15 pm
11 by SGFoxe I studied the synastry between Amanda & Meredith -- Meredith's moon conjuncted Amanda's sun -- AND for the hypothetical birth times I'm using -- Meredith's Uranus closely conjuncting Amanda's moon. Which is what I was looking for -- provocative emotional irritation -- M could possibly have gotten on A's last nerve -- eg the motive ergo A was most likely involved in some real way with the incident Quote Mon Mar 01, 2010 3:41 am