dr. farr wrote:posters are bringing in various unusual ideas in this thread (which I find refreshing!!)

I agree. I think all new ideas are worthy of exploration and it will be interesting to see the results of any further research.

GB wrote:As often happens with new ideas, it seems to work well at first

How true! It can be quite disheartening sometimes. The thing is to keep records and observe if a new method or technique appears to work more often than not. This is easier said than done of course because every chart throws up a different set of testimonies and some will carry greater weight than others. The important thing is not to throw out a new technique just because it appears to fail occasionally.

Andrew Bevan wrote: The idea of casting parts from the antiscia of planets is rather interesting, but it sounds as if we are moving out into a far wing.
(That's me alright: Far-out Farr! )

Careful with loose ends or else we'll end up judging matches from the charts of the gals the guys last bedded!

(Maybe you've really hit on something with this idea, Andrew!! )

Maybe you've really hit on something with this idea, Andrew

Perhaps you'd like to research it then, dr. farr? To get back to the original subject though, I have found that the Arabic parts listed at the beginning of the thread have been working fairly consistently with regard to goal-scoring.

For example during Arsenal's game against West Ham yesterday (ko 5.30pm GMT), Success conjunct Mercury L1 - Arsenal score; Successful Outcome opposite Jupiter L7 - West Ham concede (a penalty in fact). Result: 2-0.

(NB: trines from Arabic parts to sigs during the game appear to have no effect at all.)

GB wrote:I have started investigating MC + Moon - Sun (reversing in night charts). For the moment I am just looking at aspects to it from L1 and L7.

I am running it against my collect of matches and will report back.

I have now run it against my collection and there are some interesting results for what I will call MPoF. In the results below I am using an orb of 3 degrees in the kick-off chart. I have only reported the cases where the effect is large enough to be significant.

MPoF applying to L1 conjunction: Home win and Fav win more likely that average, Away win less likely than average.

MPoF separating from L1 conjunction: Home win and Fav win less likely, Away win more likely.

For L7 the results are not as strong but the significant results are:

MPoF applying to L7 conjunction: Home win and Fav win less likely, Away win more likely.

The above results are nicely symmetric L1/L7 and applying/separating

For aspects the results are less clearly symmetric, although the following are large enough to be significant.

MPoF separating from sextile or trine to L1 or L7: Draws more likely, Home and Fav wins less likely.

MPoF separating from square or opposition to L1: Draws less likely.

MPoF applying to square or opposition to L7: Draws more likely, Away wins less likely.

In all other cases not reported above either the effect is too weak to be significant or the number of cases I have on record is too small to draw any conclusions.

How large is your data sample?

Bob

Just over 1600 English Premier League Matches from September 2005 to now.

(Disclaimer: I have virtually no experience in the area of sports/contest/financial astrological prognostics-my field being almost entirely astro-therapeutic-perhaps it would have been more lucrative if I had applied myself to these other fields! However, my little suggestions here are based upon applications I have made in my primary field, perhaps they might apply to these fields as well?)

To GB:
Have you ever tested the POF's (or MPOF's) significator (ie, its dispositor) in addition to the placement of the POF/MPOF? I call the POF significator its "indicator", and use it to reveal additional "connections" of the POF (or any other Part which I might be applying), and have found this to be very informative.

Yes, I have looked at the dispositor of the PoF. At the moment I have only considered it's angular position: conjunct Asc, Dsc, MC or IC, and which side of the angle (H1/H12, H6/H7, etc.)

There does seem to be some effect, although it's a bit too early to tell - the dispositor conjunct an angle (within 4 degrees) is not that common. For what it's work, the dispositor in H1 or H10 within 4 degrees of the angle seems to increase the number of Away wins and Underdog wins. In fact, this occured tonight when Wolves unexpectedly won away at West Ham.