janeg wrote:And the wife's chart has Mars and Saturn conjunct in the 12th indicating her frustration with bed pleasures. Saturn is in MR with Mercury dispositor in the 5th so her primary concern may be that they will have no children due to her husband's lack of sexual drive.
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Janeg

Your are absolutely right . Childlessness is the main concern for both the wife and the family . My own finding also from applying Vedic astrology (KP) shows 'No Children' in either of the horoscopes. Praying God is all they are doing now to overcome the problem

Thank you all for making this thread interesting

Kannan

Hi, I have only looked at the chart of the male, and here are some musings:

Mercury lord 1, representing the person(ality) is in Aries, and so receives Venus lord 5 (sexuality a.o.t.) in her detriment. Venus itself is in Mercurial Gemini and in the 12th of hidden enemies, anxieties, seclusion (definitely going traditional here ). So even when a Gemini ascendant wouldn't necessarily show it (on the contrary, I suppose), there might be a problem with sexuality and other (fun) things. What 's more, Venus also rules the 12th house itself, so sex/pleasure/etc may by themselves be experienced as uncontrollable or inducing anxieties.
To consolidate this in a more modern approach, Venus (widely) trines Pluto, and the Sun opposes Uranus in Scorpio-5: sexuality and pleasures are entangled with dark, hidden and therefore probably uneasiness-inducing elements.
Mercury itself opposes Pluto in 4: parental issues (10-4 axis) throw a veil over personal clarity/audacity (Mercury L1 in Aries-10).
Saturn, the exaltation lord of the 5th, is in his detriment in the 3d of siblings and communication/information-handling. Again showing uneasiness with respect to pleasureable things, besides problems with easy communication...
Following A.T. Mann's logarithmic time scale, Saturn opposes the 9th cusp of conception; hence the person's sexuality is tainted by the way/circumstances his mother conceived of him.

I would understand the situation because of all of this as a mental/psychological problem related strongly to parental and early family conditions...

hervaro wrote: Following A.T. Mann's logarithmic time scale, Saturn opposes the 9th cusp of conception; hence the person's sexuality is tainted by the way/circumstances his mother conceived of him.

Oops, I realise I might give a reference, or some clarification on this!
Tad Mann's LTS (logarithmic time scale) is based on Rodney Collin's view on human life as a cycle of development (physical/emotional/mental/spiritual, in sequence: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/de ... effmove-20 ). This was based on G.I. Gurdjieff's teachings.
To put it quite simply: if human life can be represented by a circle comprised of 3 "octaves" (gestation, childhood, maturity), where the beginning of life (conception) and the end of it (death) meet each other, containing *all* of the life lived, then somehow this circle should/could be related to that other circel giving the totality of one's life: the birth chart.
ATMann (:-) seems to have searched for, and found, the correlation, and translated the logarithmic scale of R. Collin into the astrological circle.
Which results in (asc correlating with/representing birth, as we know) the cusp of the 9th to represent conception; the MC representing mother realising she is with child; houses 11 and 12 growing towards asc/birth; asc equals age 0yrs; at IC (if houses of equal length) person has already age 3,5yrs; Desc age is 23+ yrs; etc.
A. T. Mann has elaborated on this scheme in several publications; the first was this book: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/images ... 797&sr=1-1
(yes, I am a fan of A. T. Mann but to continue with the thread:)
thus, the sign on cusp 9, tight aspects to it, and the condition of its ruler, can be read as the conceptual (?) circumstances - that is: how the mother experienced the sexual intercourse resulting in conception! This then, gets imprinted on the fertilized egg, and delivers the blueprint for one 's creative/spiritual position and activities in later life (creative including the use/manifestation of sexual energy).

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