Goca wrote:Dear Rohan,
This chart, France vs Mexico, is very interesting, because for the first time in sports charts I see Moon as Besieged planet! I am very interested in to see how this match will end!
We know that besieged planets are believed to be very restricted in their functioning, so unable to act and + in 8house, I think Moon can not perform well that conjunction. So, my opinion is that it will be draw.

Now we know exactly how it acts - it turns entire teams into ZOMBIES France and England should be making horror movies not football.

We are approaching Brazil's 2nd game in the tournament to be played at 20.30 CST on Sunday, 20. June. This is just pointing out that when they played their first game on Tuesday, 15. June, the Moon was 8LE48 and applying sextile to Mercury at 9GE58. On Sunday the Moon will be 19LI53 and applying trine to Mercury at 20GE01. It is interesting to note that the beneficial application to Mercury in his own sign is repeated.

Daz wrote:

Now we know exactly how it acts - it turns entire teams into ZOMBIES

(regarding the besieged Moon), but I have to disagree a bit, because it was also besieged during the match Serbia - Germany and still the game was quite interesting(a few more goals could have easily been scored!) and Serbia won in the end. Why? I'm pretty convinced the Moon shows it.
If we accept that Serbia was signified by the seventh(Aries, the color red) then we see Mars which is in aversion to its house, placed in the 12th, so barely able to put up a good fight(at first glance). Germans were Venus in Leo, in a far stronger position and according to this testimony alone, they should have won the game - but they didn't, primarily because of the Moon's location in the sign occupied by Mars(conjunction 'by sign', overpowering all other aspects;the Moon's last aspect was with Mercury, Mars's ruler which is in its own domicile. Moreover, Moon is the ruler of the 10th/success, glory, victory/ thus showing the 'favor' to be with the Serbian team. In Serbia's 10th, the radical 4th, were POF as well as north node(two further positive testimonies) and in such contest charts it is always better to be represented by one of the 'superiors', especially by Mars(according to Bonatti/Sahl&co), the natural ruler of fighting spirit and bodily strength/endurance.

Anyway, I don't think that the definition of besiegement really fits these charts because if we apply the rule strictly, it states that the Moon should separate from one malefic and apply to the other, without interruption by some other planets. Here we have the Moon's separation from Mercury and application to the Sun, both by square aspects.
Just a couple of thoughts

Goran

Dear Goca, we have seen the effect of besieged Moon . Thank God it has passed now. Do you think in today's Cameron V Denmark match Denmark has advantage? I think Cameron kit matches well with Asc. So Denmark will be the DEC team. Kindly share your views.

Goran wrote:I don't think that the definition of besiegement really fits these charts because if we apply the rule strictly, it states that the Moon should separate from one malefic and apply to the other, without interruption by some other planets. Here we have the Moon's separation from Mercury and application to the Sun, both by square aspects.

Hi Goran,
I think it's more to do with emplacement than aspects. We can see the Moon placed between Mars and Saturn - if not 'besieged' then perhaps 'uncomfortably sandwiched' might be a better definition. Whatever we choose to call it, it was an indication that the favourites would not win. This is what happened on the previous evening when France lost and so it was again yesterday - none of the favourites won. Whether the Moon was besieged or sandwiched, this scenario presented an excellent betting opportunity to oppose the favourites and make a nice profit

Hmm-lots of good ideas certainly.
What I usually do when trying to predict - I just refer the end of a match to the capital of both national teams. It does not always work - but quite often- and if you find NE conj AC or MC then you may be certain the match is a disappointment. Or you see VE conj. MC - then you can be rather sure- they will be the winners. MC - that is where Venus was over Belgrade at the end of the match.
Being German I was somewhat irritated when seeing this a day before the match - and so were my friends when I told them that our national team was not going to win - or even was going to lose.
Regards
LL

Rohan wrote:Dear Goca, we have seen the effect of besieged Moon . Thank God it has passed now. Do you think in today's Cameron V Denmark match Denmark has advantage? I think Cameron kit matches well with Asc. So Denmark will be the DEC team. Kindly share your views.

Yes, Rohan, Denmark will be DSC team. There are not so much difference in dignities, both rulers are in sucedent house, Moon and its dispositor in cadent. That looks like draw, but we have APOF near DSC at 2,5 away from DSC, might be win for DSC team by color method that would be Denmark.
But because this is only one match at that time on WCup, might be the method favorite on ASC deliver right result. Denmark is slight fovorite so by this method Cameroon will win.

Mexico vs Uruguay (22.june)
Acc dig for Ju=16 for Me=4 advantage for ASC team. There are no Moon's aspects within 5 degrees.
Althought Moon is in Via combust way, which do not bode well for prediction, I think that mutual reception between Ju, ruler of 1st and Su, ruler of 10th will prevale and that ASC team will be winner. Accordin to chart Uruguay has only chance to win if they wear Blue/Ju black/Ar kit.

Dear Goca, Color method worked. Denmark won the match. Today we have Brazil V C?te D'Ivoire match. As per color method C?te D'Ivoire is Dec. Dec. team will have advantage. Can they beat Brazil?

Hi Rohan,
Please would you give us some details regarding colour allocation and why you think the Desc team will have an advantage? Thanks.

Slovakia v Paraquay

Paraquay take ASC as favourites with AS ruler angular and Slovakias DC ruler succedent it might be enough for victory. Not much testimony so few goals. Either a draw or 1-0 to Paraquay.

Rohan wrote:Dear Goca, Color method worked. Denmark won the match. Today we have Brazil V C?te D'Ivoire match. As per color method C?te D'Ivoire is Dec. Dec. team will have advantage. Can they beat Brazil?

Rohan,

Moon's conjunction to POF is strong testimony for the favourites so Brazil to win surely.