Andrew wrote:In my general horary work I find that the disagreement between the Lord of the Day and the Lord of the Hour may be a warning of controversy. I wonder whether certain combinations are likely to pave the way for the away-team or underdog.

I remember you mentioning this in the past. I think it's an interesting idea and definitely worth pursuing.

Janis, wow, what a lot of charts - you certainly have plenty of stamina! I thought I'd have a look at the Jeunesse/AIK chart since you mentioned Moon conjunct Asc. However, I get Scorpio rising with Moon in 1st. I think you may have set the chart for 18.00 rather than 17.00. Some of the testimonies you've listed still apply of course but perhaps you could just check the time? Thanks.

Ficina, that's right the game starts 17:00. ASC is in Scorpio. I don't have time to check it again, could you please update with your analysis. The chart is not radical anyway. Thanks

True, the chart isn't radical so the home underdog might have a chance and Mars L1 is trine Conquest. However, Moon is applying (in real time) trine POF within 1? which is usually a pretty reliable indication that the favourite will win or, since it's the 2nd leg, that they'll qualify for the next round. AIK won the 1st leg 1-0 so with such a slender lead, presumably they will be going for it, but a draw would still get them through on aggregate.

FC Olimpi Rustavi - FK Aktobe 1:1 (Actobe equalized in 90, I did well that I didn't risk and picked 1X)


Jeunesee Esch - AIK Stockholm 0:0 HT.


Pyunik FC - Partizan Belgrade 0:1 HT.

I am trying one game this evening in the Champions League:

FH Hafnarfjar?ar - Bate Borisov, 19.45 GMT
Odds: 4,25 3,50 1,70
Asc 5SG21 MC 28LI18 Moon 10SG24 POF 16AR50
Day Mercury, Hour Saturn - not radical
POF conj anticia Venus, L10 should do it for the favourites. I just jot down that the Lord of the Day rules the 7th house and Saturn has dignities there by triplicity.

Oh dear, Janis
Lech Poznan - Inter Baku 0-1
It spoilt your combination of 5 games...

Something I thought I'd say; Often I found I was getting 3 out of 4 right or 4 out 5 right, so that the odd one out spoiled the combination. One way around the problem was dividing the selection into two doubles, or one double and a triplet. That way there was a greater chance of making continuing profits. I only very rarely succeeded with 5 or 6 matches.

Hafnarfjordur - BATE Borisov 0-1
I am back in business.

Thursday, Sweden:
Hacken - Helsingborg, 20.00 CST Gothenburg
Odds: 3,05 3,20 2,30
Asc 29SG06 MC 14SC48 Moon 22SG23 POF 21TA40
Day Jupiter, Hour Venus - shares powers with L1, radical.
There is agreement between the powers of the Lord of Day, who rules the Asc. and Lady of the Hour. The tightest aspect is the Moon's trine to Mercury, L7. The guests, Helsingborg, are favorites. They are in strong form and the price is good.

Hard luck

Unfortunately, second leg games are a bad bet. You never know whether a good chart means a team winning the game or qualifying for next round.
Next time I will bet only on first leg games unless I succumb to temptation...

Actually I put a combination of 11 games and 6 games from which 2 and 1 was wrong respectively.

We could be more clever in keeping track of the underdogs. Every day there is a match or two that upsets the scales and shows exceptional odds. We should do more work on studying the details of these matches in particular. Picking out 1-2 good bets it also a good strategy. The odds do not have to bee too high but 2,5:1-4,5:1 is interesting.

The last thing is discipline. It is important to guard winnings and not try to accomplish too much too fast.

Hacken beat 2-1 on a penalty in the 82nd minute! That's interesting - but I don't know whether I can explain it. Mebbe the ascendant is fortified by the agreement of powers between Lady of Hour, Venus, and Lord of ascendant Jupiter. Jupiter being Lord of the Day and owner of shop (main administrator) sort of causes a double fortification? The Moon did trine Mercury, L7, but she was cadent in the 12th house and Mercury was succeedent...

Maybe I've got it back-to-front. The play between Jupiter and Venus attracts the favourite to the ascendant, and then Moon in the 12th trine Mercury, L7, in the 8th awards the game to the underdoq through a penalty?

Moving on - Friday I want to back some underdogs:

Finland, Veikkaus.
Lahti ? KuPS, 18.00 CST
Odds: 2,75 3,30 2,45
Asc 11SG21 MC 28LI59 Moon 3CP47 POF 14TA26
Day Venus, Hour Moon ? not radical
POF trine Venus L10, 14VI37
Mars, L4, 26VI10 antiscia Jupiter, L1, 3AR24 stationary
Chiron antiscia MC. Either a DRAW or favourites win; X2 - 1,42:1

Belgium ? Supercup
Anderlecht ? Gent, 20.45 CST
Odds: 1,60 3,60 5,50
Asc 14CP58 MC 19SC28 Moon 5CP12 POF 19GE21
Day Venus, Hour Jupiter ? not radical, Jupiter opposes L1
POF is inconjunct MC, then Jupiter, LHr, is stationary square Pluto. This could be the token of the underdog. Mars, L10, is and infortune and conjunct the antiscia of Jupiter, Lord of Hour. It doesn't make sense - but Gent could be a gamble for a good price. The draw is a more rational and a draw/away win is priced as follows; X2 - 2,18:1

Lastly, I will add Bray being defeated Bohemians in as default at 1,30:1. Probably a silly thing to do, but it adds to the value of the combination.

Last week, Ficina wondered about the effect of L10 squaring the Asc (and thus the Desc) and if it increased the chance of a draw. I have looked at this in relation to all the English Premier League matches from the start of the 2005/6 season to now. I have split the square between a square from above the horizon and a square from below the horizon.

It has virtually no effect on draws , however it does have quite a large effect on who wins and the pattern is, I think, very interesting. I also looked at the effect of the Moon squaring the Asc and Desc and this also has an effect. A table should make things clear:

L10 above . . . . . . . . . . L10 below . . . . . . . . . Moon above . . . . . . . . . Moon below
Fav less likely . . . . . . .Fav more likely . . . . . .Fav more likely . . . . . . Fav less likely
Under more likely . . . .Under less likely . . . . .Under less likely . . . . . . Under more likely
Home less likely . . . . . Home more likely . . . .Home more likely . . . . .Home less likely
Away More likely . . . . .Away less likely . . . . .Away less likely . . . . . . .Away more likely

Note that when I say the result is more or less likely this is in relation to the average chance of a favourite winning or the underdogs winning, or a home win or an away win. The results shown in bold are the strongest ones (the ones with the greatest increase or decrease in the likelihood of the result).

hi, GB

thank you for sharing your work!

Could you give us the numbers? I love statistics!