WH vs MU
It is easy to be smart after all, but smart people learn on their faults. I think the most important progblem is that we do not know which testimony is stronger. If someone spot that, please share.
As Le represent brighter colors, I would asign MU to ASC. WH therefore would be DSC, ruler Sa(dark red) in Li(blue).
Acc did Su=5 Sa=17 advantage for DSC team.
Part of victory on 3Li53 is in tight conjunction with Moon and IC, another two advantages for DSc team.
Moon's aspects: square AMa, sextile Su, two advantage for ASC team.
APOF is on 3Le13 close to ASC, advantage for ASC team.
So, we have 3 testimonies for DSC team and 3 testimonies for ASC team.
Question is: is it better to have Moon;s aspect with Aruler10 or with ruler 1? Or what testimony is stronger Moon on IC or APOF on ASC?
Frawley said "the closer the stronger".
So Moon is on 1:55 from IC.
APOF is on 2:23 from ASC.
So, Moon is closer, and prevail.

I wish if others were more active in joining with their analysis.

Me too, but it seams you are most brave and enthusiastic of all.

I will continue with Group H.

Young Boys - Stuttgart
Odds: 1.70 3.75 4.75

01.12.2010; kick off 20 : 00 CET (GMT + 1h)
Stade de Suisse coordinates 46 57 47 N, 7 27 53 E

Stuttgart tops the table with 12 points in 4 games. Young Boys come second with 6 points.

ASC 25CN 23, MC 03AR16, POF 4GE12, Moon 18LI18

It is the day and hour of Mercury

Boys' home kit is yellow shirt with black stripes and black shorts, Stuttgart's away kit is red but they may play with their home kit which is white shirt and red shorts.
ASC, agreeably to colours, is Stuttgart (if play in white), DSC is Boys (black). If Stutggart play in red they in addition gets Mars as significator.

The chart is not radical, although some radicality may be found with Mercury, L of hour, being in reception with Moon, L of ASC (Mercury is in triplicity ruled by Moon by night, Moon is in triplicity of Mercury by night).
This often, as I have already observed, produces draw.

+ Young Boys
1) Chart is not radical (contrary to the bookies' expectations, I think Stuttgart is the fave);
2) L of DSC is dispositor of Mercury (L of hour, day and dispositor of POF). As I said, significator of a team being the dispositor of L of hour is a significant advantage;

- Young Boys
1) Antisca of POF on ASC (orb less than degree);
2) If Stuttgart wear their away kit which is red, then Mars which is Stuttgart's significator rules ASC by triplicity and MC by house

All consider, I think it should be draw, I rely on reception of L of hour and L of ASC by triplicity.

Odense BK - Getafe
Odds: 2.62 3.30 2.60

01.12.2010, kick off - 20: 00 CET (GMT + 1h)

TRE - FOR Park coordinates 55 23 52 N, 10 21 00 E

Odense is currently forth with 3 points, Getafe is third with 3 points. Both have hopes to qualify.

ASC 03 LE59, MC 06AR 24, POF 12GE48, Moon 18LI18

Day Mercury, hour Mercury on the brink with Moon

Odense's home kit is white, whereas Getafe may appear in red (away kit), blue (home kit), or green (third kit).

There is no pronounced fave, though Getafe should be considered as marginal fave.

+ Odense
1) chart being not radical;
2) L of ASC Sun exalts on Aries MC,
3) Moon in detriment of Mars (Libra) - Getafe's significator if they play in red

- Odense
1) L of DSC is dispositor of Mercury (L of hour, day and dispositor of POF)
2) L of DSC disposes Moon (significator of Odense) by exaltation;
3) L of ASC Sun conjunct Antares

Considering that the hour is on the brink, I think it should be draw.

I am sorry for causing confusion, but I just realized that all the games begin an hour earlier. Please disregard my analysis. Oversight is my inveterate bad habit.

If some of results prove right, it will merely be a coincidence not astrological reasoning.

As regards your approach, Goca, I agree that your analysis is correct if West Ham - Manchester United had been the only game at the same time and place.
Arsenal being LEO ASC (red) won Wigan DSC (black) with an almost identical chart.

I have been looking for months how to read charts when many are playing at the same time and in the same vicinity. It is not always definitely a battle ASC ruler versus DSC ruler. Then I use any planets, which agrees in colours with the teams' kits, as significators.
In my opinion, claret is Mars in Sagittarius, despite blue shoulders which might add a tinge of Mercury (two colours).

As regards your approach, Goca, I agree that your analysis is correct if West Ham - Manchester United had been the only game at the same time and place.
Arsenal being LEO ASC (red) won Wigan DSC (black) with an almost identical chart.

Yes, you are right, everything is almost same besides odds?

In my opinion, claret is Mars in Sagittarius, despite blue shoulders which might add a tinge of Mercury (two colours).

Mars in SAg mutable sign, 2 colors, better fits because Ma/red in Sag/blue. Me do not fit becuase Me is no way red.

only game at the same time and place.

Definitely agree, its like trying to make a good curry but having several other cooks keep throwing other ingredients in..its bound to be confused. Best stick to one match-one chart for ultimate success.

Definitely agree, its like trying to make a good curry but having several other cooks keep throwing other ingredients in..its bound to be confused. Best stick to one match-one chart for ultimate success.

I agree with you, Daz, but I am not seeking for success at any cost. I am learning, the difficult it is to read the chart, the valuable it is for learning. I am just trying to find an algorhythm, if any, how to tell one from other almost identical charts. I am convienced that astrology works regardless of how many plays at the same time and the same vicinity.

As to today's EL games at 19:00, I will provide only possible outcomes since I confused time.

Hajduk Split - AEK
Odds 2.25 3.20 3.25
My guess is AEK, since the chart is not radical (ASC Cancer, hour Mercury). Saturn lord of DSC is dispositor of Mercury. Draw is also possible, for reception of Moon (L of ASC) and Mercury (L of hour and day) by triplicity.
POF conjunct Algol.

Zenit - Anderlecht

2.05 3.20 3.25
Zenit. Moon trines POF.

Odense - Getafe
2.62 3.30 2.60
Chart not radical (ASC Cancer, hour Mercury). Saturn lord of DSC is dispositor of Mercury. Draw is also possible because of reception (see above).

Young Boys - Stuttgart
1.70 3.75 4.75
Chart radical (ASC Cancer, hour Venus). If Stuttgart play in red they will win (Mars, significator of Stuttgart, is dispositor of Venus, L of hour)

Sampdoria - PSV
2.30 3.25 3.10
Chart radical (ASC Cancer, hour Venus). Sampdoria should win, Venus L of hour agrees in colours with Sampdoria's light blue and white kit.


Metalist Kharkiv - Debrecen
1.18 6.50 15.00
Chart no radical (LEO ASC, hour Moon). Considering the Moon's application by square to antisca of Sun, the fave should get it. However you may expect surprises here.

Game Young Boys - Stuttgart was postponed, so disregard my guess.

I would like you all to join in with your analysis of 2 Carling Cup games:
Birmingham - Aston Villa, odds 2.38 3.10 3.25, and Ipswich - West Brom, odds 3.75 3.50 2.00. Both begin at 19:45 GMT.

Coordinates Birmingham - Aston Villa 52 58 50 N, 1 51 47 W, Ipswich - West Brom 52 3 17 N, 1 8 43 E

ASC 01LE20, MC 05AR23, POF 10GE34, Moon 18LI44
Day and hour Mercury.

Birmingham's home kit is blue shirt with white shorts. Aston Villa's away kit is dark grey, almost black. So ASC is Birmingham, DSC Aston Villa. In addition, Birmingham gets Jupiter as their significator.

The chart is not radical. Considering that Birmingham has not won Aston Villa when playing at home since March 20, 2005, I consider nonradicality favouring Birmingham which is bookies fave rather than Aston Villa which is the bookies underdog.

Jupiter is dispositor of Mercury, L of day, hour and dispositor of POF. This I consider as a strong testimony for Birmingham.

The Moon's first aspect is square antisca POF (orb 1 degree), the second she perfects is square antisca Sun.

I am thinking which testimony shall prevail: Jupiter being dispositor of Mercury, or Moon squaring antisca POF which is a testimony for DSC team?

Ipswich - West Brom
Almost the same chart and the same testimonies.
ASC is Ipswich (playing in blue), DSC is West Brom (black).
Jupiter, Ipswich's significator, is dispositor of Mercury, L of hour, day and dispositor of POF.
Here we do not have Moon's square with antisca POF, the only aspect the Moon perfects is square with antisca Sun.
Here we have the hour being on the brink from Mercury to Moon, which often produces draw.

Regards

4 of 5 correct, I think not bad, since because of time confusion I made only superficial analysis.
Odense - Getafe draw 1:1. As I mentioned, draw is usually if you find Lord of hour in reception with lord of ASC by triplicity.
Sampdoria - PSV 1:2, wrong with that one. Mars, black and red, is dispositor of Venus, L of hour. As I mentioned, if you find the significator of a team being dispositor of L of hour, that team usually wins.

I ask you all to join in analysis. This website is for learning and sharing views.
Regards

Birmingham - Aston Villa 2:1
Ipswich - West Brom 1:0

The results were correct, whereas the analysis was wrong. The nonradicality of charts played out as I predicted.
One correction Jupiter was not the dispositor of Mercury (L of hour, day and dispositor of POF), it was Saturn.
Nevertheless, Jupiter significator of Birmingham and Ipswich was the final dispositor of all the planets. If you find a significator of a team the final dispositor of all the planets and it in a good place (elevated above all other planets) in a chart, it is a strong testimony this team will win.
In Birminingham we had Jupiter being dispositor of Mars, Aston Villa's singnificator, who played with claret shirt with blue shoulders like West Ham did yesterday.

Tomorrow I will try my best to provide some analysis on the remaining EL games.

I repeatedly would like to ask others join in with their analysis.

I will continue with EL games analysis.
Group K

Steaua Buchurest - Liverpool
Odds 3.00 3.20 2.40

02.12.2010
Kick off 20:00 (GMT + 2h)
Stadionul Steaua coordinates 44 24 46 N, 26 2 25 E

Liverpool leads the group with 8 points (2 wins, 2 draws). Steaua is second with 5 points (1 win, 2 draws, 1 lose). Liverpool secures a place in 1/16 if it draws.

Steaua's home kit is blue/red shirt and red shorts. Liverpool's away kit is white shirt and black shorts, alternatively, they may wear they third kit which is black.

ASC 27CN12, MC08AR11, POF18GE42, Moon 01SC56

Day and hour Jupiter

The chart is radical by exaltation which is a strong testimony for Liverpool as the fave. This usually is enough for the fave.

If Liverpool wears their ordinary away kit (white shirt), they get ASC and its ruler Moon, which is below the horizon, waning, in her fall - Scorpio. Not good as a starting point. Her counterpart Saturn (Steau) is in a little bit favourable position, closer to the angle and in his exaltation - Libra.

If Liverpool wear black, they are DSC and Saturn. Both significators below the horizon, but considering the odds and Saturn's closiness to the angle, Liverpool seems to get it.

But we have a problem here. From my experience I can tell if you find the team's colours matching with the lord of hour, that team usually wins. As Steaua's kit is red and blue, it agrees well with Jupiter who is not only the lord of the hour but also of the day and, in addition, the final dispositor of all the planets (7 traditional ones). Jupiter disposes ASC by exaltation and rules MC by triplicity. It is a strong testimony for Steaua.

The Moon in her fall Scorpio, waning, seems to favour the underdog rather than the fave, in particular taking into account that her dispositor Mars sits in a Jupiter (Steaua's significator) ruled sign.

The question is whether the radicality by exaltation (Liverpool win) or Jupiter as Steaua's significator shall prevail? Let's see, I think Jupiter as Steaua's significator shall be a decisive factor.

The Moon perfects several sextiles and a couple of conjunctions with antiscas of planets which are not significators.

Utrecht - Napoli
Odds 3.10 3.30 2.30

02.12.2010
Kick off 19:00 CET (GMT + 1h)
Stadion Galgenwaard coordinates 52 04 42 N, 05 08 45 E

Utrecht is forth with 3 points, Napoli is third with 3 points. Draw would dissapoint both teams.

Utrecht's home kit is white/red shirt and white shorts. Napoli's away kit is white shirt and light blue shorts, they might wear their third kit which is blue.

ASC 17CN03; MC 15PI27, POF 8GE32, Moon 01SC56

Day Jupiter, hour Saturn on the brink to Jupiter

The chart is not radical. The hour on the brink may produce a draw. On surface, the chart favours the underdog. However, the lord of hour being also the lord of DSC may favour the away team. The lord of hour (Saturn) and the lord of day (Jupiter) is in antiscas relationship which sometimes is an indication for a draw.

If Napoli plays in white shirt and light blue shorts they get ASC and its ruler Moon. In addition, they are Venus (light blue irrespective of where Venus is placed). DSC and its ruler Saturn is Utrecht, in addition, Mars (red). Mars is Venus dispositor, whereas Venus is Saturn's (L of hour and DSC) dispositor. Both are indication which usually are sufficient to win. From these both I will give preference to Mars being Venus significator. In addition, Moon's presence in Scorpio and her seperation from Venus favours Mars (Utrecht).

If Napoli plays in blue, they are DSC and its lord Saturn, and in addition, Jupiter who puts them in a more promising position.

It is very hard to decide which testimony is the weightiest one, testimonies are so contradictory that one rules out other. My prediction for this game is draw.

Regards
Janis Valkovskis

Group J

PSG - Sevilla
Odds 2.40 3.20 3.00

PSG is second in the group with 8 points (D, D, W, W), whereas Sevilla tops the table with 9 points (W, W, W, L).

02.12.2010
Kick off 19: 00 (GMT +1 h)
Parc des Princes coordinates 48 50 29 N, 02 15 11 E

PSG home kit is red shirt and white shorts. Sevilla most probably will wear their white home kit or third kit which is light blue.

ASC 11CN 39, MC 12PI20, POF 03GE08, Moon 01SC56

Day Jupiter, hour Saturn

The chart is not radical which usually favours the underdog. Sevilla, most probably playing in white home kit or light blue third kit, gets ASC and its ruler Moon.

Moon is in her fall, and Mars as PSG additional significator (red) is her dispositor. If Sevilla plays in light blue, the same picture. But here we have one strong testimony in favour of Sevilla. Venus (light blue) is Saturn's (L of hour and DSC) dispositor.

All considered the chart seems more promising for PSG.

Dortmunt - Karpaty
Odds 1.13 7.50 21.00

The chart is radical by exaltation, and I will not start providing astrological analysis. It goes without saying who will be the winner.

Group L

CSKA Sofia - Besiktas
Odds 3.10 3.25 2.30

01.12.2010 Kick off 19 : 00 (GMT + 1h)

Vasil Levski Stadium coordinates 42 41 15 N, 23 20 07 E

Besiktas is second in the group with 7 points, CSKA Sofia is fourth with 3 points.

Day and hour Jupiter

ASC 24CN00, MC 05AR14, POF 15GE30, Moon 01SC 56

CSKA home kit is red shirt and white shorts. Besiktas' away kit is white shirt and black shorts, but they might well wear their home kit which is white shirt with black stripes and black shorts.

The chart is radical by exaltation.
+CSKA
1) Moon in Scorpio (favours red);
2) Jupiter, L of hour and day, exalts on ASC and rules MC by triplicity;
3) Jupiter, L of hour and day, is Mars (CSKA Sofia significator) dispositor;
4) Moon from Scorpio (Mars house) sextiles antisca Mars

- CSKA
1) chart radical by exaltation;
2) Moon below the horizon, her counterpart Saturn is closer to the angle and is in his exaltation

All considered CSKA should prevail

Rapid Viena - FC Porto

Odds: 4.50 3.75 1.73

The chart is radical by exaltation, considering the odds FC Porto should get it. I neither looked at the colours nor analysed the chart. This one testimony must be sufficient.