Dear all

I came across intresting facts regarding violent death by accident or murder.
Abraham Lincoln, JFK, James Garfield, and a few others had natal Mars in a bad aspect with transiting Saturn when they were killed. Malcolm X and Martin Luther King had natal ascendant ruler conjunct ore opposite H8 natal ruler, and a bad aspect to them when killed not to mention Solar Arc progressions.
James Dean and a foreign actor had Uranus right on their natal Mars when they died in accident.
If you know of other famous or non famous who had such negative aspects let me know, so I can add them to to my list.
It seems Valens was wrong when he said asc. ruler had to be in a bad aspect with h8 ruler to bring violent death, but that wasn`t the case with Luther King
Regards

I think at astrodatabank you can put in almost any search term you like - try 'violent death' - that ought to bring you up a lot of charts.

DrStarman wrote:Dear all

I came across intresting facts regarding violent death by accident or murder.
Abraham Lincoln, JFK, James Garfield, and a few others had natal Mars in a bad aspect with transiting Saturn when they were killed. Malcolm X and Martin Luther King had natal ascendant ruler conjunct ore opposite H8 natal ruler, and a bad aspect to them when killed not to mention Solar Arc progressions.
James Dean and a foreign actor had Uranus right on their natal Mars when they died in accident.
If you know of other famous or non famous who had such negative aspects let me know, so I can add them to to my list.
It seems Valens was wrong when he said asc. ruler had to be in a bad aspect with h8 ruler to bring violent death, but that wasn`t the case with Luther King
Regards

It is much more complex than "asc ruler in bad aspect to h8 ruler". The topic of violent death came up a lot in a thread i posted late last year and there are lots of examples for you to see how complex this matter is :
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/forums/viewt ... ffb0d2e06b

"It is much more complex than "asc ruler in bad aspect to h8 ruler"."