Hi Bill,

Thanks for the info. Unfortunately the links don?t open, neither when I type them on google. Kepler?s perspective on the musical intervals being represented in the orbits is a very interesting one. The relation of aspects with the intervals always attracted me.

As in the post where I mentioned reference frames, aspects can be seen in different ways. The concept of ?perfectness? concerning spheres and circles, is also reflected in the tradition of musical intervals and its relation with geometry. However what we may perceive as beauty could also be somewhat culturally conditioned. Although there are clues that the build of the ear is constructed to be most fitting to simple intervals, the more difficult ones might be part of our conditioning. In other cultures music is appreciated in different ways.

Although, as in the introducing post I used the planetary radiowaves translated into sounds as a possibility of a physical effect, I can respect a non-causative model of astrology. Even with my poor possibly quasi scientific reasoning I appear to look for some value of ?meaning?, for example in the geometry of intervals. The perception of music (whether as influence or allegory) also is anecdotal and the same tune for the one can give other feelings, associations, memories than to the other.

That's strange Eddy - I just tried again myself and couldn't get through to the site either. It does exist though (www.willieruff.com) because I downloaded a soundfile from there last night! Maybe the site is down or undergoing maintenance of some kind.

I agree with you, and think to a great extent aesthetic sensibility - the perception of beauty, ugliness, harmony, discord, etc. - is a personal thing, but also strongly influenced by cultural inheritance. At the same time, there may be a direct perceptual element involved, which I'm sure has been the subject of research with pre-verbal infants re: proportion, face recognition, etc..

Because they have cycles in common and are amenable to arithmetic descriptions, it is easy to see how music/sounds and astrological processes could be placed in relationship with each other. It resonates with the Pythagorean notion "All is number" and is comforting for those who like their reality to reflect a transcendent Platonic order.

I think it's a neat or attractive idea, but am not seduced by it. I don't think about astrology in Platonic or neo-Platonic terms, transcendent realities and so on. For me astrological processes involve an act of 'seeing' and working with symbols. It's a completely human activity, which is why astrologies exhibit so much diversity, just like music, art, concepts of the beautiful, cooking and many other interesting human activities.

Eddy wrote: Jupiter sounds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3fqE01YYWs.

Shhhhhhhhh... that's the sound track to Stanley Kubrick's "2001 - a space odyssey"

Bill, I managed to access that website you referred to. It sounded interesting or rather unusual. Although I don't know on which the different elements were based, it's sure worth a closer examination. Thanks for the link.