Lunlumo wrote:

Hi
I wonder why prof. Goertzt says 3 of the same god is unfavorable,but 4,as long as spread across the 4Pillars,is favorable. It?s the first time I read that. I happen to have 4 Genussgeist(eating god) in my 4p

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Hmm, strange indeed. Actually I'm more or less a beginner...
I'll check that in G?rtz's book. By the way, it should have been published more carefully - lots of misprints. For the greater part they don't really matter - but some are really serious. For corrections see here:
http://www.bazi-suanming-praxis.info/?page_id=2

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I asked him.Here is the reply:

it is the case that one appearance is good oder bad depending on the question weather or not the element is operative or not. Two times or three times increases the importance and four times in all four pillars mean the opposite. Its in Bazi Suanming the case, that very much and very little have the same meaning.

e.g. I know an quiet attractive lady with RN (Pian Cai) in all 4 pillars. With 3 she would go for a luxurious life, ready to spend her body for high money. With 4 pillars she has high moral, and regular sense for luxus.

Regards
Horst

As for me I`m not a beginner but like so many, I stopped learning from Joseph Yu cause he lives in the West but wants to force Chinese ways on us,that is, we cannot question the teachers knowledge and authority. He pretended to be open, but when real rersearch began, it became taboo in his centre

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If the cycle is favourable, do you think it equals good things for the nation or will it be strictly personal? After all, the fate of the monarch is intertwined with the fate of the nation.[/quote]

Well, in the case of Britain I wouldn't go that far. Take Elizabeth II - an embodiment of tradition etc - a woman who deserves respect and obviously has always received it - but all this could not stop her country from continually declining ("We won the war, we lost the peace." etc.).
LL

Lunlumo wrote:

If the cycle is favourable, do you think it equals good things for the nation or will it be strictly personal? After all, the fate of the monarch is intertwined with the fate of the nation.[/quote]

Well, in the case of Britain I wouldn't go that far. Take Elizabeth II - an embodiment of tradition etc - a woman who deserves respect and obviously has always received it - but all this could not stop her country from continually declining ("We won the war, we lost the peace." etc.).
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The prime minister`s chart is more likely to affect the nation.
With Charles as King they may just get fewer tourists than when William becomes King

Hi Jorge,
the problems you mentioned might be discussed in another thread.

Back to Charles -
how to translate "Pers?nlichkeitsmuster"? - "Patterns of personality" (?)
Anyway -
he's got bi'jian - "brotherhood" - thrice: year pillar - month pillar - hour pillar

I.e. running the risk of having to fight, separation, doesn't get the reward he deserves

bi'jian in the year pillar:
feeling lonely, feels attached to close friends - this seems accurately to describe his youth (and possibly more)

.. in the year pillar: emotional stress throughout his life . Needs people with same ideals.

Hour pillar: Lack of peace in his home.

OK, there's more to be said. But at times "less is more" - I'm afraid Charles will not have the emotional comfort he's been looking for - remember that the hour pillar also represents the years "60 and beyond".

I also find his chieh tai pattern interesting . It is found in his month and hour pillar. Chieh tai has to do with one's needs within an ideological or religious frame - some kind of "weltanschauung". Seems to hit the target in this case. Interesting - according to G?rtz; this pattern in the monthly chart means having a cool atmosphere in one's parental home. Will sooner or later find his own way.
The two patterns mentioned here are found in unison in the month and the hour pillar: with chieh tai being stronger than bi'jian this may result in problems within th family.
LL

Lunlumo wrote:Hi Jorge, the problems you mentioned might be discussed in another thread. Back to Charles - how to translate "Pers?nlichkeitsmuster"? - "Patterns of personality" (?) Anyway - he's got bi'jian - "brotherhood" - thrice: year pillar - month pillar - hour pillar I.e. running the risk of having to fight, separation, doesn't get the reward he deserves bi'jian in the year pillar: feeling lonely, feels attached to close friends - this seems accurately to describe his youth (and possibly more) .. in the year pillar: emotional stress throughout his life . Needs people with same ideals. Hour pillar: Lack of peace in his home. OK, there's more to be said. But at times "less is more" - I'm afraid Charles will not have the emotional comfort he's been looking for - remember that the hour pillar also represents the years "60 and beyond". I also find his chieh tai pattern interesting . It is found in his month and hour pillar. Chieh tai has to do with one's needs within an ideological or religious frame - some kind of "weltanschauung". Seems to hit the target in this case. Interesting - according to G?rtz; this pattern in the monthly chart means having a cool atmosphere in one's parental home. Will sooner or later find his own way. The two patterns mentioned here are found in unison in the month and the hour pillar: with chieh tai being stronger than bi'jian this may result in problems within th family. LL

He married Di in a Rooster year which clashes with day or marriage court with Mao.
Chi tai is called Robber of wealth, its a very competitive star also called Yang Ren

Thanks for that hint.- No wonder that marriage finally turned out to be a failure.

LL