Any further news on this situation Pete?

Sungem wrote:Any further news on this situation Pete?

Hi Sungem,
first of all let me apologise for the delay in replying to you. I've had quite a busy few days and consequently my mind has been somewhat duller and less sharp than normal. Secondly let me thank you for helping out on the SolarFire dignity scores the way you did. I'm sure that helped a lot of people - including me...

As for the situation that the horary presented, well the update at the moment is that the husband is back in the family home and he and the wife have negotiated a settlement that seems reasonable to both parties. She is reunited with her children (ME applying to SA) and she and her lawyer seem to be singing from the same hymn-sheet (ME app to VE).

As for the husband, it has recently emerged that his lawyer dropped him (Moon translating light from Mars to Jupiter by square) and he has found a new lawyer. Not sure of the reason but the Moon rules the turned 11th so I suspect the husband's attitude towards the children may have had something to do with it.
On Aug 12th the querent is petitioning the court to have the husband removed from the home. I'm unsure how this will turn out to be honest, but I'll keep you informed.

Oh by the way, the querent tells me that the actual original question was: "Will this lawyer prove to be good FOR ME?" (my emphasis). This puts a slightly different slant on the horary, but my feeling is still "yes he will."

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Pete

Pete:

I've had quite a busy few days and consequently my mind has been somewhat duller and less sharp than normal.

You mean, under normal circumstances it's dull and not that sharp, and it's been duller and less sharp than normal???
(....just kidding!! )

As for the husband, it has recently emerged that his lawyer dropped him (Moon translating light from Mars to Jupiter by square) and he has found a new lawyer.

I find it interesting that in the first horary "When will I see my children",
the husband is Mars and his "helper" (attorney) is Jupiter (turned 2nd)
and Mars is coming to an opposition to Jupiter in 3 degrees (separation of the two)

In this horary, the husband is Jupiter and his helper (turned 2nd) is Mars, and Mars is once again coming to an opposition to Jupiter, but with a little bit of help from the Moon (the translation of light).

The two horaries are linked by virtue of reality (i.e. both of these question were asked by the same woman), and they are both also indicating the separation of the husband from his attorney. It would be interesting to find other similarities between these two charts; i.e. are they both indicating the same "final" outcome?

Good to get an update and doesn't it get curiouser and curiouser?

The Mars-Jupiter opposition looks to have indicated the husband's first lawyer dropping him, however his current lawyer will still be represented by Mars as the ruler of the husband's 2nd house.

On Aug 12th the querent is petitioning the court to have the husband removed from the home. I'm unsure how this will turn out to be honest, but I'll keep you informed.

My interpretation of this would be that now the querent and the court (10th) are both represented by Mercury! As the Moon is the querent's co-significator - Mercury (as court) is in the Moon's sign, exhalts the father (Jupiter), respects counsel for both parties (Mars' triplicity and Venus's terms) and has some extra sympathy for the mother (Moon's face). So it might seem the court will make an impartial judgement but in the mother's favour (Mercury conjunct querent's lawyer, Venus), after hearing from both sides. Mercury and Venus both read in the mother's 11th of hopes and wishes. Note Mars, the husband's lawyer is read in the mother's 8th - losing! Of course I'm ignoring the fact that Mercury has retrograded, so I hope this makes sense. I guess the retrograde has to be taken into account and I'm not sure how to go about it. As signigicator for the querent it could indicate her "coming back" to the court as it starts to station again to go direct on the 16th, after taking her husband back into the home while it was retrograde.

Oh by the way, the querent tells me that the actual original question was: "Will this lawyer prove to be good FOR ME?" (my emphasis). This puts a slightly different slant on the horary, but my feeling is still "yes he will."

Unless I've got it all wrong above - I think you're right, let's hope so.

PS - the father's significator is conjunct Vindemiatrix. Leaving aside it's widow-maker reputation since it doesn't apply here, Vindemiatrix supposedly is also an indicator of separation and divorce. I guess that is on the cards now. In any case would seem to be further testimony to the father not winning custody of the children.

Pete: (Moon translating light from Mars to Jupiter by square)

In the post above, I referred to the Mars-Jupiter opposition. I did note Pete's reference to the translation of light, however I'm still coming to terms with translation, collection, prohibition etc. So I'm looking for clarification please.

I think I understand what's happening - that the Moon will square Mars before Mars perfects the opposition to Jupiter. Then the Moon will go on to oppose Jupiter, again before Mars can complete the aspect. My questions are:

• a) Does the translation of the Moon negate/replace the opposition?
  
  b) When it opposes Jupiter, is the aspect a mixture of the Moon opposing Jupiter and Moon squaring Mars because of the TOL?
  
  c) Does the opposition of Mars and Jupiter simply happen last?

I'm a bit confused as to how this works as you can see, but it seemed too good an example to pass up.