Hello Mark and james,

not beeing able to resist your charming and repeated individual invitations
I should like to give my option:

This mystery question and its resolution could be a "proof" for whole sign houses or at least equal houses because Venus ist lost by the others in the twelfth.

But I am fasctinated by Mercury, Lord 1, 2 and 10 in the tenth, even though still combust, yet in his own signe or domicile, and Venus, also in her domicile, Lady of 10, 3 and POF, all forming a very nice Planets Picture around the MC.

So without more delineations now: The third chart is the actor's.
(If there are more actors than one represented by the 3 charts, the second could be an option too; but not the first in my opinion.)

Johannes

If my sideral analysis is right then the third chart is the actor.Using tropical it was my secod choice after the first

Damon wrote:

If my sideral analysis is right then the third chart is the actor.Using tropical it was my secod choice after the first

Second choice after the first? Lets get this right. Tropically, you want Chart 1 as your first choice but have chart 2 as your back up. Fine. Except you want to have your cake and eat it with a separate sidereal vote now that allows you to have chart 3 too! Not bad going as you said you didn't do sidereal yesterday. I love your style Damon. lol

Mark

Mark wrote:Damon wrote:

If my sideral analysis is right then the third chart is the actor.Using tropical it was my secod choice after the first

Second choice after the first? Lets get this right. Tropically, you want Chart 1 as your first choice but have chart 2 as your back up. Fine. Except you want to have your cake and eat it with a separate sidereal vote now that allows you to have chart 3 too! Not bad going as you said you didn't do sidereal yesterday. I love your style Damon. lol

Mark

Damn! I should have known that second choice always comes after the first
No the second chart int my back up. My choice has alway been betwen the first or the third

I am curious to see if Vedic works better anyway
I simply followed the rules of SA as taught in their free course here www.yournetastrologer.com
I dont normally use it,but when Im stuck...

thanks for participating everyone.. one of these charts represents an engineer who was also considered a pioneer in aviation..

James_M wrote:

thanks for participating everyone.. one of these charts represents an engineer who was also considered a pioneer in aviation..

Chart 3 I assume? Its makes sense now with all that air in the chart!

Mark

Mark wrote:James_M wrote:

thanks for participating everyone.. one of these charts represents an engineer who was also considered a pioneer in aviation..

Chart 3 I assume? Its makes sense now with all that air in the chart! Mark

Yep my cousin,a pilot, is a gemini with Moon in aquarius

I was dead wrong about the first chart... I don't know how I thought that Sun was cadent? I must have mistaken the 5th cusp for 4th... Mars is also angular, if I am to take into account the 5 degree rule (or 7 for any angular cusp), regardless of Sign boundary... Both are connected to MC in Aries by rulership, both see each other by Sign, the also see Jupiter by Sign, who rules 5th WS, but I can't be sure that is enough to be an actor.

Connecting Mars to harsh professions and Sun to leaders, I think the native can be a general, a chef, a doctor...

Because the rulers of PoF are afflicted (Venus in fall and cadent, Saturn peregrine, Rx and cadent), I have looked for the Part of Spirit, which is in Taurus, close to 11th cusp. Now we can see Venus, ruler of PoS, in 5th Sign after that Part, with the Moon angular and Jupiter in 11th... still, I'm not sure if that makes a successful person, but at least there is an indication for artistic endeavour.

So my first vote goes to chart 2, then chart 1. When James told us that one of them is an engineer and a pioneer in aviation, I knew it should be the 3rd chart, so I discard it.

Pity you told us so soon about the third chart, sidereally or just working with angles and aspects it also would be pioneer/engineer (not so sure about how I'd have seen aviator, but I'd have ruled out 1, and I'd already guessed 2 for the actor).
Better put us out of our misery now, as some are implying they got ti wrong it's because you didn't give the right details!
Graham

Point of Order. Surely Damon and Tzaddle should be disqualified, in Damon's case at least twice, and go without Brussel sprouts on Xmas day. These grave shenanigans I've never seen the likes of at Skyscript! :shock:

If OSCAR isn't chart 2 I propose the Skyscript forum is suspended for a month so due penance is served by the brethren.

Yes James, put us out of our stupidty soon before chaos engulfs us.

hi graham,

this is why overseeing these exercises is a challenge.. it is a bit of a 'damned if i do and damned if i don't' situation.. if folks just think of it as an opportunity to share their astrological thinking process with others, i think we all benefit, regardless of whether the answer is right or wrong..

i have another mystery exercise ready to go and am holding off til this one reaches a point where i share who is who.. at this point it seems premature to those on the sidereal thread like konrad and etc who might want to venture a guess.. if i give the info now, that gets taken away..

anyone is welcome to pm me if they have some good insight on how to 'lead' these exercises.. i was actually talking with tom last week about him doing another one, as i enjoyed the last one so much.. i realized that if it was going to happen, i would need to be the one doing this which deprives me of the process myself, but i still feel this is a good learning thing for me astrologically and socially. i am holding off giving more info for the moment..

Hi James,

It seems like all the votes are in (although there is a bit of shameless vote tampering going on by some at the last minute ). This is really not the way to play. Make a clear delineation, stick to your guns and go down with dignity if your wrong. All the more kudos to you if your right.

When are you giving us the results? I dont want to see any more last minute conversions to a new chart following your clue.

Mark