lihin wrote:Here is another chart of the lunar eclipse set to maximum effect time instead of opposition Moon-Sun (no better-worse, right-wrong implied), a difference of 6 minutes of ecliptical arc

Here are the alternative topocentric, observer-based times for the same location:

time of the topocentric full moon:
15h30m43

time of maximum topocentric eclipse:
15h03m42 (moon was at apogee)

In the Full Moon chart the distance from Mars (12th house) to the Ascendant is 16.7 degrees. The time from from the chart to the shooting is 16.0 days. If we progress this chart by the solar quotidian method, the progressed MC reaches the line of the eclipse exactly on Dec 14. Note too that angles of this Full Moon chart and the angles of the shooting are repeated with a difference of 3 degrees.

Juan

Good afternoon,

Whilst thinking about the application of the appulse lunar eclipse to the Newtown CT mass murder, it occurred to me that perhaps one has as an astrologer blindly followed the media in according an importance to the event far out of proportion to its real scale.

The mass murder resulted in less than 30 deaths, of course each of them tragic, for sure. To compare the relative importance, in the USofA some 35,000 road traffic deaths occur yearly, nearly one hundred daily! Such deaths are a significant, but not top of the list item in the mortality statistics. The impact of the Newtown mass murder on the demographics of the USofA was nearly nil, that of road traffic deaths is perceptible. Both apparently are accepted by many if not by most as necessary corollaries of the motor vehicle, petroleum and firearms industries, all seemingly related to notions and feelings of 'freedom'.

If we read the kinds of events that Hellenistic and Mediaeval astrologers listed as corresponding to eclipses, the Newtown one seems simply far too minor.

Best regards,

lihin