...apparently, John Frawley in his new 'Horary Textbook' has jettisoned them from his own approach to horary but maybe others know more about this than I.

Do you mean that John no longer takes into account the correlation between the ascendant ruler and the planetary hour when deciding on whether a chart is radical or not? Does he explain his reasoning for this? I know there's plenty of charts in CA that do not meet the requirements of this particular consideration.

John Frawley, in The Horary Textbook, on page 141, wrote:There are astrologers who make much of these considerations, deliberating long over whether a chart is 'radical', by which they mean 'capable of being judged'. These astrologers have their own translation of that famous Hermetic dictum, running 'As above, as every now and again so below'. Every chart can be judged. Astrology does not stop working.

I am not going to list the considerations here: my experience with students is that in too many cases once the considerations have been inserted into the head it is impossible to completely flush them out again. Better not insert them into the head. You will not miss them.

Thanks for that Siraxi.

I guess that since they are only considerations and not 'strictures' as some choose to call them, one is free to do with them what they will. However, I don't agree with disregarding them entirely and telling students they do not even need to know what they are. There is quite sound philosophy behind their development and it is important to understand what that is. Even if we note when they show up in the chart and then go ahead and read the chart, they are still giving us information.

hey guys,

i know this is an older topic, but i thought i'd reply anyway.

this is how i determine planetary hours:

1st i go here and determine sunrise and sunset time:

http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/RS_OneDay.html

then i basically convert the time indicated between sunrise & sunset into minutes, which i then divide by 12. sometimes the planetary hours are less than 60 minutes, sometimes more...you know it all depends.

then i list each hour out, starting with sunrise and adding the minutes to determine what's hour 1, what's hour 2...and so on.

for example, let's say for convenience's sake sunrise is at 6:30 am. then let's say the planetary hours have worked out to be 63 minutes for each hour. so then hour 1 is 6:30 am to 7:33 am. hopefully that makes sense.


incidentally, i'm assuming that we're working with day charts here. if youve got a night chart, you'll just have to use the sunset time of one day and the sunrise of the next. same process as described above.


after all this is determined, i go here to find the planetary hours:

http://www.skyscript.co.uk/hourrule.html

or here:

http://www.renaissanceastrology.com/pla ... cle.html#D


i hope this helps all!




-chrissy