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Andrew, thanks for posting.

Both games ended draw. I seems to confirm one of my observations that the game usually ends draw (if odds are more or less equal) if both the lord of day and the lord of hour are in the 8th division (using Placidus cusps), you can be more confident if they are also in the 8th sign. Jupiter (the lord of day) and Sun (the lord of hour) were in the 8th.

You may also check yesterdays games in Allsvenskan: Gefle - Goteborg (odds 3.25 3.25 2.25) and AIK - Djurgarden (odds 1.75 3.60 4.00) played at 19:00 CEST with both the lord of day (Mercury) and the lord of hour (Jupiter) in the 8th by sign and division (Placidus cusps).

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Janis Valkovskis wrote:
After judging a heap of soccer charts, I have come to a conclusion that the the way to do with such charts and get correct predictions is to find a correct significator for each team which does not change whether the team plays home or away and whether at 12:00, 14:00, 15:00 20:00, etc.

I would say that one and the same team cannot be Venus with Libra rising, Mars with Scorpio rising, Jupiter with Sagittarius, etc. If it is a Martian team, it cannot be a Venusian one when Libra or Taurus is rising. For example, Buyern is always Mars whatever sign rises and notwithstanding that in a particular game they are wearing a white (Moon) or a black (Saturn) kit, so is Liverpool, Arsenal, Manchester United, Chelsea, Barcelona is always Jupiter and so on.
So where does this leave your previous comments on an algorythm for football results? Have you abandoned some of the ideas you previously advocated following praxis?

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Thanks

Mark
As thou conversest with the heavens, so instruct and inform thy minde according to the image of Divinity William Lilly

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So where does this leave your previous comments on an algorythm for football results? Have you abandoned some of the ideas you previously advocated following praxis?
Yes, I have quite a few after the practice. I still use colour as the basis of determining a significator, but it does not always work. The right significator sometimes has to do with a nickname, sometimes with the ruler of the city a team represents; apart from colour, national teams sometimes with the ruler of the country or nickname.

As regards such teams as Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, Manchester City, Manchester United, Tottenham, Barcelona, Real, Buyern, Dortmund, Inter, Milan, Juventus, etc. I am confident that I use the right significator. If somebody needs, I can provide tables for Premier League, Championship, League 1, 2, Blue Square Premier, France, Spain, Italy, Bundesliga, Portugal, the Netherlands, Belgium and Sweden. They need to be a little bit corrected for next season due to some changes.

Regards
Janis

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There are certainly two ways of working here; One is waiting until the games have been played and then saying 'I got everything right'. The other way is putting the match details up in advance, trying to pass judgement and make sense the approach and techniques afterwards.
I am not suggesting that Janis is working according to the first criteria and it will be interesting when some of the research and data is forwarded. Personally, I want to put various theories to the test and this I can only do if offering the match details prior to kick-off.

At the moment I am wondering what to make out of radicality contracts with shared powers. I am not sure the results the last few days gave evidence of anything. Yet, a significant draw appearing while the planetary hour was on the change has been seen on several occasions previously and I think that if even one or two types of radicality contracts can be shown as relatively reliable, then that will be an achievement of something.
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There are certainly two ways of working here; One is waiting until the games have been played and then saying 'I got everything right'. The other way is putting the match details up in advance, trying to pass judgement and make sense the approach and techniques afterwards.
I am doing both ways, I work in real time and after the game has ended trying to collect rules. A correct prediction is not a correct application of certain astrological rules. Astrology is only part of a judgment. Roughly 40% astrology, 60% statistics and other information (current form, head - to - head, injured players, financial problems, etc.). If we do not have the needed information, it is unlikely that we get much right applying certain astrological rules. And we also must take into consideration that the bookies odds do not always correctly mirror the reality, they are independent on various factors. We must throw all the stuff into a judgement, and if we are able to sort things out, we will get impressive predictions.

I have tested and thought much on various types of radicality and consequently concluded that they do not produce consistent results; the difference lies in those 60% of information which is not always reliable. The most annoying thing is that you predict an underdog's win, but the game ends draw, you predict a draw but the game ends an underdog's win.

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Today's game, I haven't had the opportunity to post it before;

Lillestrom - Haugesund, 15.30 CEST, 59N57, 11E05
Odds: 2.28 3.35 2.87
Asc 4LI54, MC 7CN12 Moon 24SG58 POF 24AR24
Day Sun, Hour Sun - same sign as Venus, L1

The chart is radical. The Moon, L10, is VOC in Sagittarius, trine POF.
The home team favourites won 3-0.
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Monday's game in the Norwegian 1st division;

Fredrikstad - HamKam, 19.00 CEST
Odds: 2,00 3,45 3,40
Asc 8SC24 MC 29LE14 Moon 12CP14 POF 14GE04
Day Moon, Hour Jupiter - not radical

Venus, Lady of the 7th, applies to Jupiter, who is Lord of the Hour. I judge this more preferable than Mars, L1, conjunct Algol. Fredrikstad are likely to put up a fight at home, yet it seems like a good opportunity to go with the guests.
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Final in the Championship;

Crystal Place - Watford, 15.00 BST Wembley
Odds: 3,10 3,30 2,30
Asc 3LI39 MC 4CN49 Moon 10CP22 POF 7TA34
Day Moon, Hour Moon - agreement with powers, Venus

The Lady of the hour is in her detriment applying to Pluto and in the 4th house. Fortuna is opposite Saturn (1,5 degrees). It feels like the occasion of the underdog, but it could be a question of who is who. That this is a very important match, is beyond dispute.
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Crystal Palace won 1-0 with a goal scored
on a penalty in the first half of extended play!
Watford were favourites.
The chart suggested the other way, and Palace got it.
By the way, Palace winnng in extended play was priced at 12:1

Fredrikstad won 3-0 at home. They were favourites.
The guests collected nothing. Why?

The chart appears not radical, but there is an ancient friendship between Jupiter and Mars. Is that it? I have been reluctant to letting this particular friendship prove radicality, because I thought the powers of the two were more different than similar. But it is still up for testing. Or Jupiter is in his terms on the ascendant.. Does this make the team represented by the ascendant most efficient? Or is it because LHr and Venus are both fortunes? The chart should explain the victory of the home team favourites.
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I am posting yesterday's chart for the one-off 1. div. game between Fredrikstad and H?nefoss where the home team won 3-0. It poses so many interesting questions that I think the discussion is good for the record;

Fredrikstad - H?nefoss 3-0, 19.00 CEST
Odds: 2,00 3,45 3,40
Asc 8SC24 MC 29LE14 Moon 12CP14 POF 14GE04
Day Moon, Hour Jupiter (Regio) - not radical (?)
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The home team favourites winning 3-0 is an undisputable victory. It's the Hour of Jupiter according to Regiomontanus houses, also according to Placidus, but the the Hour is on the change and guards will move to Mars in roughly 3 minutes time.

Mars being lord of the ascendant and still under the Sun's beams, it could be that the Sun has a predominant influence on any such planet, for good or for ill, where the Sun is the Lord of the 10th and significator of the favourite. Or it could be that because the MC is in the 30th degree of Leo and Virgo is intercepted therein; Mercury is Lord of 10th and most closely conjunct Jupiter, Lord of the Hour.

Jupiter does have dignities on the ascendant by term, and there is still a mutual reception by term between Jupiter and Saturn, in addition to Jupiter being in Saturn's triplicity.

Fortuna is square Chiron through signs of short ascension. Let's just note it, because the favourites Viking won the local derby 0-1 on May 21. when they met Sandnes Ulf at the Sandnes home ground.
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