atlantean james

i believe your comment is the consensus which had already been reached by most of the folks here who read this and the thread mark linked to above.. thanks for your comments.

i would like to clarify something i discovered just today while researching the 'trutine of hermes' and pre-natal epoch concept. it seems the idea has been re-introduced by a few people in the past hundred years with the same last name bailey... i mentioned alice bailey earlier in this thread, but it was e.h. bailey who wrote the book 'pre natal epoch'. alice bailey probably talked about it, but e.h. bailey wrote a book on this topic.

here are a few links connected to this with a slightly more modern twist for anyone interested.
http://www.astronova.nu/prenatal4.html
http://www.rosicrucian.com/zineen/pamen034.htm
http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Bailey,_E.H.

further to this atlantean has a post on his site that discusses the epoch chart with a different approach yet again based off alexander marr's work and connected to the polaris software as i understand it.
http://www.jamesalexander.de/the%20epoch%20chart.html

for anyone who wants to continue the discussion in a modern direction, i suggest starting a new thread in the general astrology forum! i think this thread has served it's purpose. thanks!~

Hi there,

in relation to the topic here, I've done some years ago, a statistical study about the Animodar (which is somewhat related to Trutine of Hermes, as in this topic). It was the study of Luis Ribeiro and Helena Avelar, as some may recall, although it was I who processed the data and wrote the article.

It was a "fast" study, but the main conclusion was that the Animodar was a kind of an illusion (not the best word to describe it, but I can't find a better one now). The study and its results were published in the Tradition journal, which is no longer being published. If there is any interest in it, I can ask permission to the publishers to post the article here..


Jo?o Ventura

hi joao,

i just read this skyscript page on the animodar. http://www.skyscript.co.uk/gl/animodar.html

according to this method my birth time would have to be adjusted about 17 minutes from what is on the birth cert. that is pretty good and might work for someone who doesn't have any way of getting the specific birth time.

i would be curious to read the article if it isn't too much hassle. thanks! james

james_m wrote:that is pretty good and might work for someone who doesn't have any way of getting the specific birth time.

Hi James,

I've emailed the publishers to see if I can publish the Animodar article here.. Those 17 minutes which you say it's pretty good is consistent with our findings. The problem which it was "identified" with the Animodar was that it always gives good results, even when the data is random, and not consistent with real birthtimes (like a birth per minute in a specific day for the same location, Lisbon - we don't have so much births around here)..

I think the article explains this better than I can explain it here..

To make the bridge between Animodar and the technique of Trutine of Hermes, which is the topic of this thread, it would be great if someone could do a study to check if results are good..

Hi again,

the editors gave permission to republish the Animodar article. You may find it at (http://www.skyplux.com/init/static/animodar_effect.pdf).
The article was first published in the 3rd issue of "The Tradition", on Autumn 2009.

(If moderators find that this is not the right thread to post this, please consider move it to the correct place, thanks!)

Jo?o Ventura

thanks joao! james

Hi

Did anyone ever consider birthplace correction?

(just kidding)