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14 by OculusTauri
Wolfgang wrote:As I know, in the book of Wulff, (Tierkreis und Hackenkreuz) at page 247 there is the Horoskope of Hitler with Libra AS, as he used!
So Wulff used a rectified chart for Hitler. Still with Libra ASC, though.
He was not the personal astrologer of Hitler, he was working for the GESTAPO, special for Schellenberg.
Strictly speaking K. E. Krafft wasn't Hitler's personal astrologer neither. Did he use the same chart as Wulff?

As far as I know both Wulff and Krafft amongst many other astrologers, were persecuted by Hitlerites. Many old books were lost during WW II, it being one reason why German-speaking countries today are behind in practice of traditional astrology in comparison to Anglo-Saxon world. Back in those days Astrologia Germanica was highly renowned... Witte, K?hr, Grimm, Vehlow, Schwickert, Weiss.

What's left? Nowadays in Germany we practice Thomas Ring's "revised astrology". If you ask me, it might as well be termed "retarded astrology". :D
As above, so below (Hermes Trismegistos)

15 by rahu
i bit of astrological trivia.....
New York Times july 11 16:8
dr nicholas murphy butler, president of columbia university reported that while in london attending a conference of the carnagie endowment for international peace, 5 astrologers claimed that the climax of hitler's career would come in early september 1939. whatever he must do to add to his fame must be done before that date.

these astrologers seemed to be correct as hilter invaded poland on sept1 1939 . so maybe hitlers time of birth is correct after all.

rahu

Re: Hitlers chart makes no sense

16 by SGFoxe
[quote="dragonqueen"]Hi
Ive been looking at Hitlers progressions and Transits.The only thing that makes sense are the cycles of Saturn.He was arrested as Saturn entered the dark phase or ASC and elected when Saturn was on IC.
He died with Saturn high in 9th in Cancer,but weak and opposite Moon/J?piter.
But why didnt he manage to enter the arts academy in 1907 and 1908,when J?piter was in Cancer in 9th and then in Leo and Saturn already going high in 6th house?

thanks[/quote]

there's a detailed Hellenistic delineation of Adolph's chart out of Project Hindsight -- it makes sense,

Re: Hitlers chart makes no sense

17 by dragonqueen
SGFoxe wrote:
dragonqueen wrote:Hi
Ive been looking at Hitlers progressions and Transits.The only thing that makes sense are the cycles of Saturn.He was arrested as Saturn entered the dark phase or ASC and elected when Saturn was on IC.
He died with Saturn high in 9th in Cancer,but weak and opposite Moon/J?piter.
But why didnt he manage to enter the arts academy in 1907 and 1908,when J?piter was in Cancer in 9th and then in Leo and Saturn already going high in 6th house?

thanks
there's a detailed Hellenistic delineation of Adolph's chart out of Project Hindsight -- it makes sense,
http://www.projecthindsight.com/index1.html
Where?
thanks

18 by dragonqueen
The fact that the only person he loved was his mother and he had her photo everywhere he lived tells me that Jupiter Moon conjunction is more important than the sign position in capricorn.
I wonder how R Hand would look at his chart with his proposed method in WSH booklet?
The IC falls in 5th and lord Saturn is in 11th at MC

Re: Hitlers chart makes no sense

21 by Paul
dragonqueen wrote:Hi
Ive been looking at Hitlers progressions and Transits.The only thing that makes sense are the cycles of Saturn.He was arrested as Saturn entered the dark phase or ASC and elected when Saturn was on IC.
He died with Saturn high in 9th in Cancer,but weak and opposite Moon/J?piter.
But why didnt he manage to enter the arts academy in 1907 and 1908,when J?piter was in Cancer in 9th and then in Leo and Saturn already going high in 6th house?

thanks
I'm not sure we should take one event in a person's life, find no obvious reason for that event, and then determine that the person's chart makes no sense.

It may well make a lot of sense that in 1907 that he would fail to secure a position in a university. There are, I'm sure, many ways to look at this, but just to take one, in 1907, at 18, Hitler enters a 7th house profection year. The profection is ruled by Mars, which is a malefic contrary to sect and out of dignity and corrupting Venus which is besieged by Mars and Saturn. Of course the following year, the Mars-Venus conjunction is notable again as the profection passes instead to Venus. If we were to profect from the MC we'll come to Saturn, which is our other malefic invovled in the besiegement and is out of dignity as well.

If we look to his solar return for that year, the lord of the year is exalted, but is in the 12th whole sign house, with the Moon also cadent in the 6th and making no aspects, void of course.

I don't think we should quickly dismiss a chart if we cannot find, at a glance, something which confirms what we might expect to find. Whilst what I've posted here may not be compelling enough to suggest a failure to achieve one's ambitions for that two year period I think we also need to accept the possibility of it before we rule out a chart or deem it to make no sense.

22 by A. H. Cats
I rectified the Hitler horoscope on 5 december 2005.

This was a rectification of the Wilhelm T. H. Wulff Hitler horoscope.

With progressive aspects and transits I could verify events.

I was so convinced of the rectification that I published by Kirjaboek.nl my

book: Gecorrigeerde horoscopen Adolf Hitler en het Derde Duitse Rijk 1933.

MC Adolf Hitler 26.29,32 Cancer is opposite MC Third German Reich 1933 26.05.34 Capricornus, which Nine cusp 8.38.03 Capricornus is conjunct Hitler's Jupiter 8.14.41 Capricornus.

Hitler's Saturnus 13.27.35 Leo is conjunct Napoleon Bonaparte's MC 13.21.06 Leo.

The horoscope's of Adolf Hitler and Napoleon Bonaparte are displayed on my website andrieshc.jouwweb.nl.

Bonaparte's years 1814 and 1815 are displayed by progressive aspects and transits.
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