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here are some charts connected to NATO -

here is NATO inception chart april 4 1949 set to washington 4:52pm local.
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here is NATO aug 24th chart 11:42am washington time.
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here is 2014 solar return for the april 4th chart.
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here is 2014 solar return for the aug 24th chart.
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NATO's bombing of kosovo in 1999 started march 24th 1999. NATO's bombing campaign lasted from 24 March to 11 June 1999
see wikipedia for this information.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo_War ... ch_1999.29

below are the 1998 and 1999 solar return charts (off the april 4th chart) which would cover the time frame of NATO's actions.
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below are the 1998 and 1999 solar return charts (off the aug 24th chart) which would cover the time frame of NATO's actions.
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my only astrological note at this point is to observe the position of mars and saturn in all these charts as i think it has something to do with war or making war.. of course mars is very strong - but the malefic out of sect in the april 4th chart for NATO.. in the aug 24th chart it is also the malefic out of sect, cadent and in the sign cancer, but ruler of the ascendant. it's ruler-the moon is applying to saturn, but not yet out of the beams of the sun. all in all it is a very different mars in the aug 24th chart compared to the one in the april 4th inception chart.

the other thought i am having as i type is what does the overlap of these 2 charts look like? below is a biwheel with april 4th on the inside and aug 24th on the outside.. bear in mind the time of the april 4th chart is 4:52pm while a time of 5pm is also mentioned. this will shift the angles approx 2 degrees.

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the immediate connection with mercury in the aug 24th chart back to the april 4th chart stands out. it takes me back to mercurys position in the april 4th chart conjunct mars - both in aries.. war, and talk of war seems to be the focus especially as they both land in the 7th house of the april 4th chart. it is interesting as my understanding is NATO is a result of, or a product of the cold war and an attempt to protect europe from russia - put bluntly.. whether it is also a wedge to prevent europe from forming closer ties to russia, as opposed to the usa is also a possibility too, but not generally considered as i understand it. of course this seems to be the same topic over the dynamic of ukraine as i understand it... hopefully all the charts come thru, as i don't want to have to do this again!
Last edited by james_m on Thu Mar 13, 2014 4:07 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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I am awaiting arrival of my new "The Book of World Horoscopes" and maybe this information has been updated there, but in the 1988 edition I current have to suffer with (and just currently realised to have been re-released) Nick Champion states:
TBOWH wrote:The North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) came into beeing as the result of a treaty signed on 4 April 1949. The horoscope for this date is highly descriptive and is sometimes used as that for the creation of NATO itself, which it is definately not. The treaty was signed in Washington at around 5.00 p.m., although a literal reading of press reports suggests a time of 4.52 p.m. for the completion of the signing ceremony.
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TBOWH wrote:The organization came into being at 11.42 a.m. on August 24 1949 when, following the ratification of the treaty by France (the final country to do so), President Truman signed the document bringing the treaty into force.
So how did you come to using a noon chart (assuming the above still apply in the new edition)?
/Joakim

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