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we will have to ask the guy who wrote a book on 'real astrology' won't we? lol.. he did a good job of setting himself up as some sort of authority on that and here according to the book i am reading - he is actually stuck reading modern astrologers, or even worse - lilly who was a contemporary version of mashallah, lol.. one quickly sees how these terms are redundant and can be used any which way.. but, i do want to get down to the '''real'' astrology in all of this! after reading that link from vasanth by Frawley, i think my mind went numb! the link he gave appears to no longer work. Frawley seems to excel at humour.. i have never read a book of his, but maybe he is pretty good at astrology too.

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Bear in mind that when he published there were few books in English. We have the benefit now of the translated works by astrologers who understood them. The tradition has evolved if you like. To them

O glory and light of all others who sing
In verse, please show me favor
For having lovingly studied every little thing

In your volume, You are my master my author,
For only through careful imitation
Of your noble style am I granted any honor
Matthew Goulding