Is that a prediction?

pipedreamer wrote:The leader of the opposition is currently Australia, which I understand means southern land. As an observation, when North Light won the Epsom Derby the Moon was conjunct the IC (north). The trine to Pluto in earth may seem a little too fanciful to refer to a Land Down-under.

Australia makes sense and is currently my choice.

In a few days we will be able to see the colours, and I want to check how they match the chart - I like a match to both the name and the silks.

5th Cusp 21?Cap55'

Trine to Mercury 21?Tau48' - only 7' of arc away.
Antiscia of Mercury 8?Leo12' (in his own term) trines antiscia of the 5th cusp (if there is such a thing) 8?Sag05' and that sextiles the antiscia of PoF 12? Aqu 03'.

Antiscia of the Moon is at 25?Gem37' - conjunct MC.

Mercury is L1 and L10.

LotH is Jupiter who is in Mercury's term at 15?Can21'.

I originally looked at War Command and Night of Thunder (calculations of both of not given here). There's a few names that could fit into this chart, but it wasn't until i cast a horary that the horse i'm going to back jumped out - and these calculations are for???..

BOOKRUNNER e/w 33/1

The silks are listed on the racing post site with the current available odds. Australia should run in the purple/blue with white edging. How would anyone choose colours?
Physically the darkest colts should be Giovanni Boldini (brown) and Kingston Hill (dark grey/roan); the latter seems a good e/w selection at 10/1.

pipedreamer wrote:How would anyone choose colours?

Pipedreamer,

I think you might be running up the wrong track (pun intended) by putting so much emphasis on Jockey's silks - it's the horse that wins the race - not the shirt it's rider is wearing, in my humble opinion.

We have observed in the past that if the name of a horse matches the chart, and the colour is indicated, then there is a good chance of a win.

For the 2000gns we have Jupiter Lord of the Hour (LHr is quite often indlcative of the colour), and Jupiter indicates either blue, or imperial purple - the colour carried by your selection Bookrunner. My main worry about Bookrunner is that, although we have Virgo on the ascendant and so Mercury as L1, Mercury is in fixed earth. I would be happier if I could also see the 'runner' element of the name.

Australia (discussed above) carries mid-blue, which would also fit Jupiter as LHr.

Shifting Power (an outsider e.w. possibility), has the Pluto (power) connection mentioned much earlier in this thread, and the Mercury L1 (shifting) connection. The blue again links to Jupiter.

I am still making my mind up on this race and am waiting for the final runners list.

Mercury in fixed earth probably indicates that the race will be run at a steady pace - but it doesn't describe the fact that Bookrunner has flown 1000's of miles across the atlantic to take part. And i'm sure that it's owners wouldn't have gone through all that hassle if they didn't think he had a chance.

And besides, Forrest Gump probably had Mercury in Taurus, and he was a great runner.

Still, as i stated, i'm only going e/w here as i've noticed that my own judgement becomes clearer towards the beginning of the race - and quite often when they're at the post. That's why most of my selections made here are posted just a few minus before a race.

The problem that we have with the hour ruler is the results that it produces. If for example, we have Mars as the hour ruler, that should indicate that all the races around that time would produce a Mars type horse or that the silks are of a Mars colour, but it doesn't. For example, you might have 3 or 4 horses with a Mars name - who do you pick from Redrum, War Chief or Red Marauder?

I think that name association is by far the most important thing to consider - as the name contains the essence of the horse. Which is, and i'm sure that you would agree, a living, breathing being with a personality and a sprit. And i think the name contains the sprit of the horse. The winners of these big races are written into the history books - and no-one either remembers or cares about the silks it's rider wore.

However, that is not to say that colours shouldn't be taken into account - but they are only a very minor testimony compared to other factors in my opinion. It's the same thing as reading a nativity for someone and judging their chart based on the colour of the uniform they wear to work, or even the colour of the uniform their boss wears.

Still, i think the reason for this thread is to find a method that works - just like those on the footie thread are doing.

Here's 2 quick selections for today:

Ascot 15:10
LotH: Mercury
5th Cusp 9? Cap 40' trines Sun 10?Tau09'

Solar Magic 3/1


Ascot 15:45
LotH Mercury
5th cusp 17?Cap26' trines Mercury 15?Tau25'

Earth Amber 16/1

Ascot 15:45

5th Cusp first aspect antiscion of Mars, according to colors Harris Tweed might be winner, but if anticion does not count then we have aspect with Sa, according to colors Simenon might be winner.

This time color method did not work.
Results for Ascot 15:45:

1st Tac De Boistron
2nd Earth Amber

gs53 wrote:This time color method did not work.
Results for Ascot 15:45:

1st Tac De Boistron
2nd Earth Amber

Not true, gs53 - you called it exactly right.

TAC DE BOISTRON won and the jockey was wearing yellow silks. Mars resonates with yellow every day.

He delights in Red colour, or Yellow, fiery and shining like Saffron, and in those Savours which are bitter, sharp and burn the Tongue; Humours, Choler. - William Lilly 1647

GB is right, if the name and silk colour match, the horse either wins, or comes 2nd very often.

I have tested the colour theory on every UK and Irish horse race over the past 6 weeks, and Lilly scores the best when compared to Picatrix, etc.

The only point I'd contest is all his Mercury connections. In my study, Mercury is mainly light-mid blue. I have not been able to correlate his 'mixed' colour combination.

My attempt at the 2000 Guineas:

LHR Jupiter and Moon in Cancer and angular.
Jupiter/Moon strong by exaltation and rulership.
Both planets are in a northern sign and in a southern house.
A horse from the south running in the north?
Pick- Australia