13 by Konrad pankajdubey wrote:Konrad wrote:Larxene, I can't speak for the origintaors of the other divisons, but the Mesopotamians seemed to have seen the sky in fractals of both space and time; they divided up each sign like the zodiac and divided each day like they did each year. There is also some coincidence between their division of time and the concept of Primary Directions and Profections. I made a small post on it some time ago, but I can't find it now. May be because you had accidently rolled over to the football side Your discussion was based on sidereal measurements, I presume. http://skyscript.co.uk/forums/viewtopic ... c&start=75 Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:28 am Post subject: Reply with quote Janis, firstly, as you know, I use a Sidereal measurement, so the dodekatemoiria will place differently than in the Tropical measurement. Right now, I look only at the dodekatemoiria of the degree of the IC (following Dorotheus in seeing the angle of the earth as the outcome of the election) and the dodekatemoiria of Fortune. What I am interested in is applying aspects to either within the 3 degree limit proposed by Antiochus by benefics to fortify the favourite, malefics to fortify the underdog. I am getting decent results but there is still something I am not seeing, especially when neither have any applying aspects. In those games, something is still happening but I can't see what. I am in the middle of exams now, so I won't be able to devote myself to it fully for another couple of weeks. I am very interested in getting all of the championship, league one and league two games kicking off on a Saturday at 15.00 and seeing the differences in the charts (the Dutch league playing Friday nights is even better with Holland being a small country), and these are the points I saw aspects to showing diferent results, yet there was a consistency with an aspect from the Sun alone, for example, via fortifying the favourite, from Mars, the underdog and so on. Edit: sorry, I use the multiplication by 12, it fits the fractal of space theory I ascribe them to. _________________ http://esmaraldaastrology.wordpress.com/ Pankajdubey, yes, the dodekatemoria would be in the Sidereal zodiac. However, I actually meant that I made a post somewhere (not here, on another forum or in an e-mail, I can't remember) about the coincidence of the Mesopotamian division of time and Primary Directions and Profections. I don't think it was anything ground-breaking, and I am sure someone else has noticed the correlation before, but for me it was a nice thing to see anyway. I did find a post here on Skyscript where I mentioned it in passing, but that wasn't the one I was referring to. But yes, the post you have found does hint towards the fractals of time and space I am seeing in Mesopotamian and later astrology. Thanks anyway. http://www.esmaraldaastrology.wordpress.com Quote Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:41 pm