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The trouble with fixtures is that charts for games played at regular times barely change from one day to the next. That would be the case with this evenings game in the Championship, but here are the differences;

Bournemouth - Watford, 19.45 GMT
Odds: 1,85 3,65 4,00
Asc 11VI34, MC 5GE59, Moon 24GE03, POF 25CP01
Day Venus, Hour Venus - not radical

The lack of radicality could move the balance away from the favourite. Saturn is slightly off shaft in terms of the IC, so the draw might not be argued in the same fashion. If anything, retrograde Mercury L1/L10 is combusted by the detrimented Sun - this didn't lead Sheffield U to victory in the recent game. The Moon is inconjunct POF, which could indicate an underdog. Watford are in a goal-happy mood, having won both their two recent league matches with a 5 goal difference. By sure they will try to capture another 3 points tonight, but will have to do without a few key players.
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Bournemouth - Watford 2-0 :(

Watford were delivered a Red Card in the first minutes of play.
Most unsatisfactory when things like this happen.
Some of the old things I couldn't figure out still haven't changed.

Maybe the unradical chart releases the Red Card of Mars in the 7th? Mars is in the degree of Mercury's fall and in a state of misbehaviour. Bounemouth scored their first goal in the match in th 35th minute on a penalty was Mars was exact square the MC. This is still to messy for me, though. I want to know who wins, draws and looses - and the scoreline!

Is Watford really 'Watford' if four of your best men are resting?
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Saturday, Jan 31:

Hull - Newcastle, 12.45 GMT
Odds: 2,65 3,15 2,85
Asc 2GE45, MC 18LE55, Moon 2CN55, POF 19SC21
Day Saturn, Hour Moon (Placidus), on the bridge (Regio) - Not radical

It's a local derby, or close? Before moving from Englad to Norway in the 60's, the family used to take the car up from Birmingham to either Newcastle or Hull and catch the ferry from there up to Oslo. Then we emigrated in 1969. Oh well, years ago.

The chart is not radical, unless the Moon in the 1st house qualifies. Do will look for some tricks? Or the planetary hour is on the change according to the Regiomonanus cusps, does this put the Guards on the Bridge? The latter condition plays for a draw. However, we do have an angular planet in this chart. Jupiter, Lord of the 7th, is opposite the MC. Two options; the guests get it, or the 4th house emphasises the draw. I would like to give angularity priority and am giving my nod to Newcastle. It's up for the testing.
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I want to know who wins, draws and looses - and the scoreline!
Me too, but not sure whether we can reliably predict the scoreline. We occasionally might get it right but most likely it will remain part of guessing. Who wins, draws or loses we can and should predict, at least better smart punters (who rely on everything else but astrology). Astrology should give an edge if correctly interpreted.

Back to the chart. From the table for Championship we see that Bournemouth is primarily signified by Saturn, but Watford by Sun. We see that Saturn is in the subterranean angle (If I remember correctly, Greek astrologers considered Saturn's place here stronger than in any other angles). Saturn also disposes POF. Dispositor (almuten of the degree) of POF in an angle is usually a strong and reliable testimony for favourites. Here the almuten of POF degree is Mars (exaltation and term - I use Ptolemy's ones for sport contests). It is in the Western angle in its triplicity.

The condition of the hour ruler is a weighty testimony to decide who will win. If it is in good condition, the quality of time is good, provided it is not afflicted by some bad reception with the day ruler. Here Venus rules both and is exalted in a night chart in her own terms.

Sun - Watford is aversion to the rising sign and separating from the inferior conjuntion with Mercury, the ruler of ASC. Saturn disposes the Sun. In sports, there is no reception so Sun is controlled by Saturn.

The condition of the hour ruler is a weighty testimony to decide who will win. If it is in good condition, the quality of time is good, provided it is not afflicted by some bad reception with the day ruler. Here Venus rules both and is exalted in a night chart in her own terms.

The Sun is also aversion to the lady of day and hour Venus. Saturn is in her stake, though the square aspect is seperating. Sun is aversion to Venus.

So you see that Saturn is in stakes of the key planets which decide who wins, draws or loses. Sun is aversion to all of them.

I think even Watford had all their best men available, they will anyway lose. The lack of radicality (mostly because of Venus being in the fall of Mercury, ruler of ASC) probably would have given a consolation goal but not more had their had their best men available.

The 12 th part of IC degree (06 SA 01), which is a very useful tool (but still requires thorough research) falls in Aquarius, in the bounds of Venus (13 th degree). The lady of the bounds is in excelent condition (a testimony for the favourite). The bounds are empty (from planets and their aspects), so there are no additional indications to consider.

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Hi, Andrew

Thanks, for pointing to this one. It is a real test for astrology.

The best odds you can currently get on betting exchanges are 2.75 for Hull, 3.28 for draw and 3.00 for Newcastle. The price for draw is dropping, with two remaining option slightly up. One should always monitor the market. The general market swing is usually correct in at least 50% of occasions. Currently, the folk slightly favours draw. Both teams are in a terrible form, each 3 defeats in a row. Hull is fighting for a place under the Sun so it must me more motivated to capture points than Newcastle. Newcastle have suffered 5 defeats in a row when playing away and drawn only one in last 7 aways. The overall statistics for Hull as host are 2 wins 3 draws and 5 defeats; Newcastle away - 2 wins 3 draws and 6 defeats.
Hull has never won Newcastle on home soil, the last game was a 1:4 trash. The opposite also is true - Newcastle has not won Hull on their home soil. So far the statistics favour the guests.

I do not see the guards on the bridge even according to Regimontanus. The hour is ruled by the Moon, and the next one which is Saturn's will take the shift in 13 minutes.

The chart is to be considered not radical. Moreover, there is no agreement between the lord of day Saturn and the lady of hour Moon. They are in aversion and cannot communicate to each other. However, the Moon is angular and casting a close antisca to the rising sign.

According to the table Hull's primary signifacator is Sun, Newcastle is Saturn. As regards suggested city rulers Hull and Newcastle both are ruled by Scorpio, Mars. It is fairly reliable but still needs testing. Notice that the Fortuna is in Scorpio.

Both significators can see the rising sign. Sun (Hull) is disposed by Saturn (Newcastle). Based on this testimony, Newcastle has advantage. However, the Sun in a stake of Jupiter (partile the IC degree), whereas Saturn in the 5th but is disposed by Jupiter. So the Sun gets advantage. Sun is in a stake of Fortuna, whereas Saturn in 2nd from it. The Sun gets advantage. Both are aversion to the lady of hour Moon. As there is no clear favourite, Saturn is not afflicted by the Moon (lady of hour) being in Cancer, the detriment of Saturn. To sum up, we have 2 testimonies for the Sun and one for Saturn. But the advantage is a slight one.

I do not see much going in the chart. The Moon is applying to trine exalted Venus. She rules nothing import in the chart and thus cannot be a key testimony per se. Saturn (Newcastle) is in superior square to Venus but the aspect is separating. Sun is aversion to Venus (the planet who receives the Moon's disposition).

The 12 th part of IC degree (18 LE 52) falls in the 17th degree of Pisces in Mercury's bounds. We find the bounds afflicted by Mars location in the bounds. No other planet aspects the bounds. Mars afflicting the bounds of 12 th part of IC degree either by body or aspect is a testimony for the underdog. But unfortunately there is no underdog. Hull is a slight favourite by odds but an underdog by position in the table.

All considered, a default option would be a draw (in particular considering such conflicting testimonies) but I am inclined to give a slight advantage to the home team.

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I see that Newcastle are wearing their away kit which is light grey (Moon as indicated in the table). Sometimes for away games they wear the third green/blue shirt which is Mercury by signification.

I usally use Saturn for Newcastle despite playing away. But there are exceptions if the planet signifying the kit colour is somehow prominent in the chart like the rising Moon in this chart. So far, Newcastle leads 2:0.

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Janis wrote:Here the almuten of POF degree is Mars (exaltation and term - I use Ptolemy's ones for sport contests). It is in the Western angle in its triplicity.
This in an interesting point. I like this line of thought.
Saturnhead wrote:I went for the enemy, Newcastle to win.
Hull - Newcastle 0-3 :'

There is an interesting comparison in the one-off game at 17.30 GMT later this evening. It is the angular Jupiter. Will it be equally generous with goals? I only wish - but we haven't seen it yet!

Chelsea - ManC, 17.30 GMT
Odds: 2,15 3,35 3,60
Asc 20LE01, MC 5TA15, Moon 5CN22, POF 13CP53
Day Saturn, Hour Mercury - radical by joint sign, L1.

So Jupiter is on the ascendant, Venus is sextile MC, the MC is actually on the Moon/Venus midpoint, and Fortuna is conjunct Pluto. I don't know whether Chelsea have the capacity to beat ManC with 3 goals, but the 0-2 handicap is priced at 8,5:1. The draw on the 0-3 handicap is priced at 12,5:1 and the 3-0 scoreline is valued 18:1. Would that line of thinking make any sort of sense?
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I think that the clue was the rising Moon (the lady of hour) applying to exalted Venus. Newcastle worn they light grey away kit which is signified by the Moon. As I argued earlier, one should look at the planet signified by the actual colour if he finds it somehow promininent (fortified in angles or from angles) or afflicted in angles or from angles (apply it only to favourites, not for underdogs) in the chart.

The 12 th part of the IC degree was in bounds of Mercury afflicted by the presence of Mars (which is a strong testimony for underdog; Newcastle were underdogs by odds) but here, according to my observations, it should have played little role as Hull City were underdogs by the table position.

Well predicted, Andrew. :'

But it was not due to the angularity of Jupiter, the lord of the 7th. Jupiter here might have played the role of being the exalted ruler of Cancer which contains the Moon.
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Congo vs. DR. Congo in the African Cup of Nations Quater Final.

16:00 GMT
Bata, Equatorial Guinea

DR Congo is the slight favorite @ 17/10, Congo are the underdogs - 2/1. However brilliantly the good Doctor has done by getting to the quarter finals, I can't see him winning this match on his own. Indeed, the anticision of Fortuna is placed at 17?Cap24' - on the 7th cusp - a sure sign that the underdogs will win the day. Another testimony is the Moon aspecting Venus by trine at 05?Pis01' - in her own terms, no less - expect a goal at about 7mins.
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Andrew Bevan wrote:
Chelsea - ManC, 17.30 GMT
Odds: 2,15 3,35 3,60
Asc 20LE01, MC 5TA15, Moon 5CN22, POF 13CP53
Day Saturn, Hour Mercury - radical by joint sign, L1.
I punted a Man City win.
If it's not astronomically true, it's not astrologically true.

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Will it be equally generous with goals?
I doubt it. Both of Chelsea's best players are out - Diego 'spaghetti western baddie lookielikey' Costa is banned for a petulant stamp and enormous hypocrite Cesc 'shoot me if you see me in a Chelsea shirt' Fabregas is out injured for the game which is known around my way as 'EL Plastico'.

Mourinho is known for 'parking the bus' in big games - sitting back and defending.

However, i think Chelsea will win 1-0 with the sucker punch coming in the last 10 mins or so of the game - assuming there's 5mins of added on time at the end of the first half - when the Moon inconjuncts the Sun at 11?Aqu30'.
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