37 by Southern Cross Morin used a special technic, he worked with PD on the the base of the Solar. He moved the angels in the motion of PD. Which program is able to do this method? Only Kolevs Placidus? I think I understand how Morin figured out his death with the PD and Solar Return but when using his methods on someone else it isn't that "easy" anymore. It's not rare that someone did not have any significant PD close to time of death (let's say in the range of 1 year). Quote Mon Feb 16, 2015 7:56 am
38 by Wolfgang Martin Gansten wrote:In zodiaco is a slightly ambiguous term. To clarify, Morin didn't use any sort of 'mundane aspects' (nor did anyone else, practically speaking, prior to Placidus), but he did advocate directions with latitude and had his own system of assigning latitude to aspect points. Hi, Martin I am not sure if I understand you right. So you say he did not use mundane aspects. -But Morin used mundane direction. In his critic to Cardanus (see Book 22 p 89/90 trl. J. Herschel H., or p582 in AG) you can see. See also the footnote 147. by trl. of J. Herschel H. Wolfgang Quote Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:38 am
39 by Wolfgang Southern Cross wrote:Morin used a special technic, he worked with PD on the the base of the Solar. He moved the angels in the motion of PD. Which program is able to do this method? Only Kolevs Placidus? I think I understand how Morin figured out his death with the PD and Solar Return but when using his methods on someone else it isn't that "easy" anymore. It's not rare that someone did not have any significant PD close to time of death (let's say in the range of 1 year). Hi, Southern Cross, the technic, better the modul of this, to produce Solar.- PD (also Lunar-PD) I think only has the Program Placidus. The technic, how it works, is also written in Carl-K?hr?s book ?EREIGNISZEITEN? but only in german. (':-?') I did not look especially in Morin?s AG to find this part. I know that it must be there. May, with some trick you use a SR-PD. You work by a SR like as a radix (-horoscope) and use direction to the angels, so you can get may same result! (free program Morinus?) I never tried this experiment. Key : 360? = 1 year? may Wolfgang Quote Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:55 am
40 by Martin Gansten Wolfgang wrote:I am not sure if I understand you right. So you say he did not use mundane aspects. -But Morin used mundane direction. In his critic to Cardanus (see Book 22 p 89/90 trl. J. Herschel H., or p582 in AG) you can see. See also the footnote 147. by trl. of J. Herschel H. I haven't got the texts with me at the moment, but as I said, in zodiaco is an ambiguous term, and so is in mundo. Morin used aspect angles taken in the zodiac -- to be precise, in special aspect circles slightly inclined to the ecliptic, so that they (typically) had some latitude from the ecliptic. He also used the bodies of the planets with latitude. What he did not do was to redefine the concept of aspects into something wholly independent of the zodiac, like the 'mundane aspects' of Placidus (where, for instance, a planet on the 5th or 9th house cusp is considered to form a mundane trine to the ascendant, etc). https://astrology.martingansten.com/ Quote Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:01 am
41 by Wolfgang Martin Gansten wrote: Morin used aspect angles taken in the zodiac -- to be precise, in special aspect circles slightly inclined to the ecliptic, so that they (typically) had some latitude from the ecliptic. He also used the bodies of the planets with latitude. . When I understand you right in the last sense , so you said in other word, he used directions which are now called "Under the Pole of the significator"?! Wolfgang Quote Mon Feb 16, 2015 12:51 pm
42 by Martin Gansten Wolfgang wrote:When I understand you right in the last sense , so you said in other word, he used directions which are now called "Under the Pole of the significator"?! Well, yes and no. That term is normally used nowadays to refer to a variant of Placidean directions. Morin used Regiomontanian directions, but you are quite right that they are based on the construction of poles (and corresponding circles of position, i.e., artificial horizons). https://astrology.martingansten.com/ Quote Mon Feb 16, 2015 2:13 pm
43 by Southern Cross Hi, Southern Cross, the technic, better the modul of this, to produce Solar.- PD (also Lunar-PD) I think only has the Program Placidus. The technic, how it works, is also written in Carl-K?hr?s book ?EREIGNISZEITEN? but only in german. ('Confused') I did not look especially in Morin?s AG to find this part. I know that it must be there. May, with some trick you use a SR-PD. You work by a SR like as a radix (-horoscope) and use direction to the angels, so you can get may same result! (free program Morinus?) I never tried this experiment. Key : 360? = 1 year? may Thanks, Wolfgang. I found this link which writes about Morin using 1? RA for direction of the Solar Returns. http://wiki.astro.com/astrowiki/de/Tagesdirektion So far I haven't been able to replicate the correct data which was mentioned in this thread but will try further. BTW. using 360? arc/year gives quite interesting results too. Quote Mon Feb 16, 2015 3:14 pm
44 by Wolfgang Hi Martin, I see, and I know (!) we speak about the same medal, but from diff. side! Wolfgang Quote Mon Feb 16, 2015 8:12 pm
46 by Wolfgang Hi, Southern Cross I used for SR PD the birthplace! I think this works better... more exact! I hope you can reproduce the same hits now! Wolfgang Quote Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:47 am
47 by Southern Cross Hi Wolfgang, which program did you use for your results? I have solar fire and morinus but not placidus. Southern Cross Quote Thu Feb 19, 2015 7:59 am
48 by Wolfgang Hi, I used PLACIDUS , Prg. Rumen Kolev Wolfgang P.S. This ARMC is important http://www.screencast.com/t/wWehQz05Rsjh Last edited by Wolfgang on Thu Feb 19, 2015 10:01 am, edited 1 time in total. Quote Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:52 am