This one is also interesting Olivia:

http://www.scienceagogo.com/news/200902 ... _sys.shtml

The matter of inversion of the zodiac in the sourthern hemisphere has been tackled in the below thread before, if anyone wishs to re-take a look:

http://skyscript.co.uk/forums/viewtopic ... sc&start=0

I must say that living in the sourthern hemisphere I'm not unconfortable with the signs order of domiciles, as they reflect planetay speed among other things, and for the reasons stated under the above thread in my posts. But I always was at odds with the exaltation system of dignities, that seems to me older and more local related. But in practice, we (sourthern astrologers) still get results - or are mass-delusional.

PFN wrote:

The matter of inversion of the zodiac in the sourthern hemisphere has been tackled in the below thread before, if anyone wishs to re-take a look:

Your explanation in that thread was one of the most interesting contributions and presents an innovative perspective. Although I personally think the origins of the domicile rulerships was probably more prosaic than that.

Mark

Perhaps a bit annoying but it has to be mentioned that the line of apsides / the line of perihelion-aphelion precesses too, in 21,000 years through the zodiac. So in the Hellenistic era the aphelion would have been in end of Taurus. In 10,500 years from now they will be reversed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year#Sider ... stic_years
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apsidal_precession

"I guess it depends upon which sidereal zodiac, oh lets just invent one so that "we're right" and we don't have to admit that we goofed. "

I propose the "new" sidereal zodiac begin with the confluence of the Galactic Center and the capricorn solstice (mula nakshatra) (2227 ad) ... we are now more in the Galactic Force Field (since December 1999)

I think this has boiled to the top of the conscious zeitgeist because of the unusual type of extreme events that have been piling up ... and people are becoming aware of possible correlations between cosmic & terrestial event.

No argument about the tropical zodiac however, since it is basically defined by the equinoxes & solstices.

Incidentally, Time is Geocentric -- eg pretty much defined by the earth's axis of rotation -- day/night -- mutual barycentric rotation with moon = month, its revolution about the sun = year, and its 26K year precessional wobble throughout establishing the aeon

Thanks for the compliments Mark.

Eddy, thanks for that info. Actually, that defeats a little the purpose of my post in that previous thread, but anyway, living and learning.

Sorry Paulo, I can imagine it hurts a bit. However it's still useful to think about the ideas of planets in perihelion/aphelion. It introduces the concept of distance and seeing in depth.