13 by james_m thanks amt, just keep in mind when most astrologers are talking about the 7th house they are referring to the descendant - opposite the ascendant and the house associated with this angle - the 7th house.. the way i am encouraging you to think of it is not as commonly expressed, but it is just as you say - turned houses, or what i like to call derivative houses.. cheers james Quote Thu Jan 02, 2020 1:42 am