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Hi Zachariel,

Zachariel wrote:I must have been blind or something, sorry for this. Too much hurrying not putting enough attention towards these examples.

Sometimes it's hard to determine the planetary pictures, that takes a lot of practice, I think. But if there were additional points in the circle showing other harmonic points, it would be even easier to see the planetary pictures. As far as I can see there are no software developers out there that write the appropriate software. Therefore, astrological development will take much longer than we think, because nearly no research is possible without the appropriate software.

The ultimate goal of this remarkable finding is to bring benefit for suicidal endangered people, preventing to end life by suicide. Maybe one day - in not too distant future this knowledge will be incorporated in life sciences, who knows?

Unfortunately I am not optimistic like you. When you see that today's astrologers are still at Harmonic 4, although it was discovered more than 100 years ago, you can also imagine how much time they will need to start practicing with Harmonic 64, not to mention even higher harmonics.


I wanted to write about one more point so that one knows how to proceed if a person is at risk of suicide. First we should examine the secondary progressed lunar phases so that we know if there is a suicide danger for a certain period of time, then we should examine the corresponding solar. After determining the progressed lunar phase, you can examine the solars in this period and find out which year it is. One can of course go a step further and examine the lunar returns to determine the month and then use progressions to determine the day.

Example #1:
BENJAMIN Walter, German literary critic, philosopher, social critic, translator, radio broadcaster and essayist

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Benjamin
https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Benjamin,_Walter

* 15 July 1892, 22:30 LMT (m13e21)
Berlin, Germany, 52n29, 013e21

Harmonic 16

Secondary progressed lunar phase : it applies until 19 Mar 1942

30 Apr 1938 AD GC 16:28:24 CET +01:00:00 First Quarter

phase Mars/Saturn = phase Moon/Mercury = phase Node

phase Mercury/Node = r Moon/Mercury

Example #3:
Female teenager

https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Re ... nged_44253
"Australian suicide, a young girl who hanged herself at home a week before her 17th birthday, 11/201992."

* 27 November 1975 at 18:06 AEDT (H11e)
Frankston, Australia, 38s08, 145e07

† 20 November 1992

Harmonic 16

Secondary progressed lunar phase : it applies until 26 May 1993

4 Apr 1989 AD GC 06:39:45 AEST -10:00:00 First Quarter

phase Mars/Saturn = phase Moon/Mercury = phase Moon/Node = r Moon/Node

Hi linchi,

thank you very much for delving deeper into this highly interesting topic, emphasizing the importance of the secundary progressed lunar phases.

It‘s such a shame that the attempts to motivate producers of astrological software to implement some few but very useful and important features like these 45-degree-dots and also the secundary progressed lunar phases in their software have so far been fruitless.

Without conveniant proper software it‘s difficult extending astrological knowledge beyond todays borders. And of course we truly need expansion of assured astrological knowledge because many astrological issues still appear more a kind of religion than an object of scientific discussion. I myself have no problem with discussing ancient astrological scriptures - of course we will need this too - but I‘m convinced that it is not a good idea for the benefit of astrology in permanently stewing in our own old juice.

Again, thank you linchi for your innovative contributions to astrology and also to this wonderful astrological forum Skyscript!

Addendum:

BENNINGTON Chester

Tertiary II (=Minor) Lunar Phase Progression (Harmonic 16)

phase MA/SA = radix ME/NO





BERMAN David

Tertiary I Lunar Phase Progression (Harmonic 256)

phase MO/NO = radix MA/SA





FLACK Caroline

Secundary Lunar Phase Progression (Harmonic 256)

phase MA/SA = radix MO/ME



Transit Lunar Phase Last Quarter (Harmonic 16)

phase MA/SA = radix MO/NO




PLATH Sylvia

Secundary Lunar Phase Progression (Harmonic 16)

phase MO = NOphase/NOradix = radix MA/SA




WITTE Alfred

Transit Lunar Phase 1st Quarter (Harmonic 16)

phase MA/SA = radix MO/ME

Addendum:
(Source: https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Ca ... _:_Suicide)

BIRD Derrick

https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Bird,_Derrick:

"British lone gunman who killed 12 people before killing himself in Cumbria, England on 2 June 2010. He was a taxi driver."

* 27 November 1957, at 03:05 GMT
Whitehaven, England, 54n33, 003w35

† 2 June 2020
Boot, Cumbria, England, 54°n23'59", 003°w16'15"

Lunar Return (Harmonic 16)

lunar MA/SA = MOr/NOlun
3°41'36"..........3°36'58" --> Difference: 4'38"






BOWEN Zack, American murderer

https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Bowen,_Zack

* 15 May 1978, at 18:50 PDT
Bakersfield, California, USA, 35n22, 119w01

† 17 October 2006 CDT
New Orleans, Louisiana, USA (Omni Hotel), 29°n57'22", 090°w03'56"

Lunar Return (Harmonic 16)

lunar MA/SA = radix MO/NO = radix NO/ME
15°32'08"...........09°55'13"........15°33'54"

Because of Harmonic 16 we can add and/or subtract 11°15' or 05°37'30":

15°32'08" (- 05°37'30") = 09°54'38":
Difference between lunar MA/SA and radix MO/NO: only 35"

15°33'54" (- 05°37'30") = 09°56'24":
Difference between lunar MA/SA and radix NO/ME: 1'11"






COLES Mark L., American client administrator at the firm Fidelity Investments

https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Coles,_Mark_L.

"...he taped a small explosive device to his neck and committed suicide by blowing himself up."

* 7 April 1972, at 12:49 EST
Cambridge (Middlesex County), Massachusetts, USA, 47n22, 071w06

† 20 May 1997, at 12:00 noon
Watertown, Massachusetts, USA, 42°n22'15", 071°10'58"

Lunar Return Progressed (Harmonic 2)

lunar MA/SA = radix MO = lunar ME
48°16'41"........93°29'13"...137°26'57"

Because of Harmonic 2 we can add/or subtract 90° or 45°:

93°29'13"" (-45°) = 48°29'13"
Difference between lunar MA/SA and radix MO: 12'32"

137°26'57" (- 90°) = 47°26'57"
Difference between lunar MA/SA and radix ME: 49'44"






DISCH Thomas M., American science fiction author and poet

https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Disch,_Thomas_M.:

"Disch killed himself by gunshot on 4 July 2008 in his appartment in Manhattan, New York City."

* 2 February 1940, at 22:22 CST
Des Moines, Iowa, USA, 41n36, 093w37

† 4 July 2008
Manhattan, NYC, NY, USA, 40°n42'22", 074°w00'11"

Solar Return (Harmonic 16)

solar MA/SA = solar MO/NO = radix MO = radix NO
6°35'03".............6°38'45"......6°36'06".....0°52'03"

No detailed presentations of the calculations this time...

Difference between solar MA/SA and solar MO/NO: -3'42"

Difference between solar MA/SA and radix MO: -57"

Difference between solar MA/SA and radix NO: 5'30"

Difference between solar MO/NO and radix MO: 2'39"

Difference between solar MO/NO and radix NO: 9'12"

Difference between radix MO and radix NO: 6'33"






Zachariel

Supplement to Bird, Bowen, Coles and Disch:

In Radix of BIRD Derrick (Harmonic 64) we can find:

MA/SA = MO/NO





In Radix of BOWEN Zack (Harmonic 256) we can find:

MA/SA = NO/ME





In Radix of COLES Mark L. (Harmonic 256) we can find:

MA/SA = NO/ME





In Radix of DISCH Thomas M. (Harmonic 16) we can find:

MA/SA = MO/NO = NO/ME

Addendum to:
https://archive.org/details/Astrologica ... 0Suicide_2 (page 115):

DECKERS, Jeanne-Paule Marie "Jeannine"
("Soer Sourire", the singing nun)

* 17 October 1933, at 14:25 GMT
Laeken, Brussels, Belgium, 50°n52'40", 004°e20'53"

† 29 March 1985
Wavre, Belgium, 50°n42'57", 004°e36'46"

https://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Deckers,_Jeanine

"Death by Suicide, 29 March 1985 (overdose of barbiturates and alcohol)"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Singing_Nun


Natal Chart (Radix) - Harmonic 16

MA/SA = MO/ME = NO