13 by Carol If memory serves, I think in an event chart such as this, the 1st house goes to the country where the invasion takes place, which in this case is Ukraine, so house ruler/Saturn would represent Ukraine and the Ukranian people. I also think Moon/7th would probably represent Putin/Russia, which is in Ukraine's 11th house of friends and also about to make a sextile with Saturn/Ukraine, which also happens to be in the sign of friends (Aquarius) of all things! I know this all seems pretty absurd and shocking at first, but maybe it goes along with Putin's statement: "The purpose of this operation is to protect people who for eight years now have been facing humiliation and genocide perpetrated by the Kiev regime. To this end we will seek to demilitarize and denazify Ukraine, as well as bring to trial those who perpetrated numerous bloody crimes against civilians..." Also, I've heard it said (don't know if it's true) that there's a good chance that some of the Ukranian soldiers and Russian soldiers know each other and may have been FRIENDS because they trained together. Again, I know this all sounds pretty crazy and outrageous compared to the mainstream media narrative, but then again if the chart is read correctly, it doesn't lie. Quote Sun Mar 06, 2022 2:34 am
14 by annadeer Carol, for sure many Russians and Ukrainians are friends. It also struck me that the asteroids Ukraine and Russia make a trine. I interpreted it that it may indicate that the majority of the Russian population don't want this war and side with the Ukranians. As for the first house being the invaded rather than the invader, seems strange to me, but maybe you're right -- do you have a source for this? Quote Sun Mar 06, 2022 3:51 am
15 by Carol Hi annadeer, In answer to your question, it's from Deb's book, The Houses, Temples of the Sky, pg 77: The Seventh House: "All enemies that are identifiable as such belong to this house; the 12th house warns of secret enemies operating in a clandestine manner, but as soon as their existence is known they are represented through the 7th house which signifies opposing forces and those who invade our territory or act against us." I just realized the above doesn't specifically say it relates to EVENT charts, so I'm not really sure. Quote Sun Mar 06, 2022 5:26 am
16 by WooWoo Hi, I think that with Venus now ahead of Mars, and hence now falling into a Besiegement Type of Energy, within another Besiegement Energy of Saturn Pluto, that tells Us a lot. Venus is now sort of Escaping from Mars, but has to cross thru Saturn around the 29th March. Escaping but Encircled ? What role is Saturn playing in this ? Mars then crashes into Saturn around the 5th April. Clearly there will be some sort of Show Down in the latter part of March into April. You've got to wonder with Venus making a run for it just now if the Conflict will now increasingly go the Way of Ukraine till said Show Down ? QED H Quote Sun Mar 06, 2022 12:24 pm
17 by annadeer Venus will first square Uranus March 20 — March 23 Mars will square Uranus — March 27 Venus will be conjunct Saturn, and Mars will be conjunct Saturn square the nodes - exact on April 5. — doesn’t look good at all. Big time conflicts and problems. April 9 -16 Jupiter will be conjunct Neptune - can also be high risk indicator for disasters. I wrote that in my forecast for 2022 -- back then I was foremost thinking of covid and floods -- now of course the war seems to give more reasons for worrying. Or maybe all of it together. It will pass too. Let's hope for the best. Quote Sun Mar 06, 2022 1:29 pm
18 by Stefan Zelensky's inauguration chart with transits for the Invasion. 20 May 2019 "10:22 a.m. Zelenskyy accepts the symbols of the President of Ukraine: a necklace, a stamp and a wooden mace. He is now officially the President of Ukraine." Noticing the Hard and challenging Saturn Pluto on South node squaring MC. Triggered at Invasion by transit Mars, Venus and Progressed Moon at 21'50 Capricorn. Harsh conditions for the government administration. Collapsing of structures. Note Moon conj Jupiter 120' MC for public appeal and the rise of Zelensky as a symbol of freedom and courage. Quote Fri Mar 11, 2022 1:52 pm
19 by Ouranos Here is the 9th Harmonic Chart of Vladimir Putin (Outer Wheel) The 9th Harmonic is a microcosm of our relationships. Notice here that he has 9thH SU at 5 Aqu 21 in the Harmonic 7th House trine his natal MO, square his natal AS and VE and sextile Harmonic 4th House Neptune As the transiting MA/VE are approaching his 9th H SU in the next couple of days, I would not be surprised to find him entering some form of negotiations or compromises for humanitarian reasons (sextile H Neptune IC) We find as well transiting JU over his 9th H NN. Blessings! Quote Fri Mar 11, 2022 2:34 pm
20 by Zosma Putin is in his 10th profected house ruled by Leo /south node /& Pluto.So his open enemies currently are represented by Aquarius the profected 7th. It is here that Saturn is coming into an opposition to Pluto on the 22nd "kill or be killed "degree, Mars conjunct Saturn 22nd degree opposite one of his profected rulers Pluto 5th April. In addition his Solar Arc Pluto almost exact on his Ascendant with South node close behind,Power struggles his life could be in danger. Quote Fri Mar 11, 2022 7:55 pm
21 by Zosma Looks like no fly zone with Mars conjunct Saturn in Aquarius early April NATO could enter conflict as Aquarius represented by nations coming together for a common goal Venus tagging along later may bring Mr Putin to the table but Pluto is the worry. Quote Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:43 am
22 by Ouranos I wrote above that... "As the transiting MA/VE are approaching his 9th H SU in the next couple of days, I would not be surprised to find him entering some form of negotiations or compromises for humanitarian reasons (sextile H Neptune IC)". Well, it did appear that he engaged more seriously in negotiations with Ukraine... but little did I know that he would ask China for help. With a stellium in Libra in the 12th, everything is worked out behind closed doors. I am worried now about the upcoming Mars/Saturn conjunction over his natal South Node with Pluto/SN/Lillith in opposition. Here is an interesting article by David Remnick - The weakness of the despot March 11, 2022 in The New Yorker https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/ ... ine-stalin? An interview with Stephen Kotkin, one of the most profound and prodigious scholars of Russian history. Quotes On Russia - "There’s been tremendous change: urbanization, higher levels of education. The world outside has been transformed. And that’s the shock. The shock is that so much has changed, and yet we’re still seeing this pattern that they can’t escape from." On Ukraine - "With Ukraine, we have the assumption that it could be a successful version of Afghanistan, and it wasn’t. It turned out that the Ukrainian people are brave; they are willing to resist and die for their country. Evidently, Putin didn’t believe that. But it turned out that “the television President,??? Zelensky, who had a twenty-five-per-cent approval rating before the war—which was fully deserved, because he couldn’t govern—now it turns out that he has a ninety-one-per-cent approval rating." On the West - "The biggest surprise for Putin, of course, was the West. All the nonsense about how the West is decadent, the West is over, the West is in decline, how it’s a multipolar world and the rise of China, et cetera: all of that turned out to be bunk. The courage of the Ukrainian people and the bravery and smarts of the Ukrainian government, and its President, Zelensky, galvanized the West to remember who it was. And that shocked Putin! That’s the miscalculation." On Putin dilemna - "The problem for authoritarian regimes is not economic growth. The problem is how to pay the patronage for their élites, how to keep the élites loyal, especially the security services and the upper levels of the officer corps." Putin needs a way out. Can a leader of Israel, Iceland or China offer him this way out? Russia has a major problem. The recent Venus/Mars conjunction over the last Jupiter/Saturn conjunction degree at 0 Aquarius has instilled new alliances (Ve/Ma) in the socio-economic free world (Ju/Sa). And Russia was not invited at the table. Cycle will last until February 2024. Blessings! Quote Mon Mar 14, 2022 11:59 am
23 by Zosma Trying to understand all this using Putins chart as a scrying glass, the 10th 4th axis is important and I am drawn to the nodes. NN on the 4th cusp Aquarius an outsider imposter to me represented by Zelensky a Jewish leader the head of the nationalistic forces of Ukraine how weird is that for a start, supported by a west which is on an elitist journey to a new world order that is trying to subjugate their populations denying them freedoms mandating experimental rna injections into their bodies. Putin in his profected 1st house South node Leo conjunct Pluto trying to impose his understanding of the history of Russia & its past leaders onto Ukraine trying by war to stop this new world order lapping onto mother Russia & by doing so playing into the hands of Saturnian new world devils. And now Israel is to broker a deal! The home of the Rothschilds. Money is the root of all evil & wars are built from fiat currencies. Something altogether more sinister is being played out & the age of Aquarius is not going to be the utopia we were led to believe. Who gave the best prediction that this war will occur in February? who made this prediction October last year, not an astrologer but Alex Jones on info wars He was told that this will happen by his contacts Last edited by Zosma on Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:27 pm, edited 1 time in total. Quote Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:01 pm
24 by WooWoo Do NOT forget The Nodes !! The Nodes !! (After Quasimodo) The Nodes !! The Nodes !! H Quote Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:23 pm