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Update:
Noticed that Scholz was in White house yesterday, meeting Biden.

2pm local time.

Moon position 1' Leo in washington.

Corresponds to the degree of the MC degree 1' Leo for the
attempted rectification try for 15:11 time.

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thanks stefan.. lots of interesting astro connections... here is the biwheel with transits to 2pm in washington dc on the outside... natal chart for 311pm... all in tropical zodiac.. midheaven in the 311pm chart is 0 leo 56... moon in the 2pm washington chart is 1 leo 51.

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here is an interesting story on a germany based fact check company... the germans on the thread have some interesting things to say about it.. again - it is all very relevant to know what the people of germany think of scholz and where he is leading the country... even more important is the way the mainstream media presents it all.. check it out if interested..

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/03/r ... .html#more

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The forthcoming transit of UR on IC conj. MA might be of significant relevance.
IC conj. MA - that is at 17,x degrees TAU. And 17,x degrees TAU - SCO: that is what may be called the "German axis", as it was trggered so often in German history - beginning with Luther's reformation (31st Oct. 1517, jul.),
PL there in the charts of 1871 (German Reich),
N0V 9th 1918: Germany becoming a republic
NOV 9th, 1938: so-called Reichskristallnacht (nowadays "Reichspprgormnacht")
May 8th 1945: German surrender
NOV 9th, 1989: end of the Berlin Wall...

...who knows what may follow there sooner or later...

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Above the chart of the "Reich", 1/1 1871, Berlin. Alternative: the chart of the proclamtion, Versailles, Jan.18th (around 13 LMT) . I find the chart of Jan. 1st more convincing.
PL at 17 TAU - and soon UR will be there - and activate MA/SA=PL ...
The country might get involved in the Ukraine conflict more and more.
Non coerceri maximo, contineri minimo divinum est.

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hi lunlumo

you might be interested in reading and replying to this thread that was started on the 1871 chart for germany here -
https://www.skyscript.co.uk/forums/view ... hp?t=11909

in that thread the issue of uranus transit conjunct pluto was discussed.. also stefan happened to notice some other connections in another chart for germany that involve a connection with pluto and uranus by primary direction... it was a conversation we had in one of these previous threads on germany...

here is the thread where stefan discusses the 1990 chart for germany with all this..
https://www.skyscript.co.uk/forums/view ... hp?t=11861
cheers james

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I am utterly confused right now about which chart to use for Germany LOL.

But Scholz chart can be used as an add to other mundane chart for development in germany. As the principle of the national leaders chart take on a collective meaning once in power.

Notice a shooting in a synagogue with many dead.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ ... g-shooting
"Hamburg shooting: attack at Jehovah’s Witness hall leaves seven dead and dozens wounded in Germany"

In Scholz 15:11 chart transiting Mars sits right on his natal sun and on Placidus 9th cusp noted. (Religious places)


( For AJ
marriage date for Scholz is updated to be around 10th december 1998 according to a German astrology student who did some googling in German press. Using Lahiri ayanamsha: Scholz entered Jupiter dasha in december 1998 - In Navamsha (marriage domain) Jupiter is in hot key place in the navamsha ascendant - This is somewhat corroborative for 15 pm birthtime
due the Navamsha chart w)ith Jupiter sitting in navamsha ascendant.)

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thanks stefan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Hamburg_shooting

the event chart itself has late virgo rising - very similar to scholz virgo rising chart - whether 3pm, or 311pm.. in fact, the time of the event is given as 9pm to 915pm... i have used 9pm in the charts below..

here is a biwheel with olaf 3pm chart on the inside and the event to hamburg on the outside..

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here is the same biwheel with the 311pm time instead..

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one thing that can be said is how the transit mars hits olafs sun-saturn opposition.. sun rules the 12th, and saturn the 5/6 houses... mars itself rules the 3.8 houses - all whole sign houses of course... i have no idea what rules what in the placidus chart..

this event seems to re-emphasize the pluto on the descendant theme in olafs solar return beginning june 2023... the 3 and 311pm chart solar return both have the midheaven axis, basically in line with this event chart for hamburg yesterday...

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Stefan wrote:Hello everyone


I played around a bit with Olaf scholz chart and share it here some random comments for what it's worth.

About the birthtime. Yes 3 pm seems rounded. I did look at events with Jyotish and western techniques and found at time at the end of the span AJ suggested.15:11 about.

Jyotish Sidereal
AJ mentioned JUpiter in first house in Navamsha. One peculiar feature of his Jyotish chart with it's divisional charts is that not only in the Navamsha is Jupiter in first house. In fact Jupiter is in the first house in:
Rashi chart
Navamsha chart
Drekkana chart
Chaturthamsha chart
Saptamsha chart
Dashamsha chart
Dwadamsha chart
Siddhamsha chart
Bhavamsha chart

Quite weird actually.:D
Scholz was actually a lawyer and had a law firm before going into politics - Jupiter.

That Jupiter in first house holds true for a time about 15:11 too, as Scholz have a long ascension rising sign.

Scholz was elected prime minister in Saturn-Venus period Vimshottari dasha.
Venus the subperiod planet was in the key 10th house in his Dashamsha 10th division chart for career. That is a good argument for the time being approximate good 15:00-15:11 about.

Scholz have no children.
His natal saturn is in a troubled karmic state with saturn in late degree sidereal scorpio (gandanta - karmic knot place).
In his divisional chart for children D-7 Saptamsha saturn rules his 5th house as well, and is heavy afflicted sqeezed by malefic mars and rahu in the 3rd house which is a tough one in the divisional charts especially.
That is an argument for this divisional chart being the correct one.

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Tropical

By moving his time to 15:11 his ascendant lands on fixed star * Spica which is succesfull generally. His MC changes sign to ruling Leo 1 degree.
This is the degree his secondary progressed venus (asc lord) is when he became prime minister 2021.

Also when becoming Prime minister solar arc asc opp SUN (natal trine)

Secondary progressed MC sextile Progressed Venus.

His marriage 1998 - primary directed Asc opp Moon roughly
Vice prime minister 2018 - Primary directed asc trine Mars
Prime minister 2021 - Primary directed MC opp Mars ( radix trine)

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Well don't know which is correct but sharing anyway.

However interesting is that by Distributing through the bounds his ascendant is through the Jupiter bound now. That Jupiter rising with spica in his chart. Reflecting that success this combination describes. Becoming a world leader.
Participator currenty is Mars. This describes the war like climate that the current state with Ukraine war et.c.
In fact Olaf Scholz took decision to greatly increase the army (mars in 6th).

In the rectified chart Neptune (gas) is squaring his MC which can be scandals and weakness, but also describing the central place gas and energy issues have been in his rule. :D 8)
How did you determine that Mars is the participator?

thanks

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Hi Osiris,


This is from Janus software - Predictive section - Distributions




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The directed ascendant is in the sign Sagittarius in the term of Jupiter (distributor). So Scholz powerful rising Jupiter with spica is activated now in this powerful time for him as a worldleader.

Participator or partner is Mars as that is the last aspect done by the directed ascendant. Mars is powerful in own domicile. In the 6th house that can give some obstacles and military issues maybe.

For further clarification read the eminent astrologer Anthony Louis blog article with a similar example with mars as participator (or partner).
https://tonylouis.wordpress.com/2019/07 ... rd-system/

Best wishes
Stefan

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Stefan wrote:.



Hi Osiris,


This is from Janus software - Predictive section - Distributions




Image

The directed ascendant is in the sign Sagittarius in the term of Jupiter (distributor). So Scholz powerful rising Jupiter with spica is activated now in this powerful time for him as a worldleader.

Participator or partner is Mars as that is the last aspect done by the directed ascendant. Mars is powerful in own domicile. In the 6th house that can give some obstacles and military issues maybe.

For further clarification read the eminent astrologer Anthony Louis blog article with a similar example with mars as participator (or partner).
https://tonylouis.wordpress.com/2019/07 ... rd-system/

Best wishes
Stefan
I see
thanks a lot

Re: olaf scholz - sidereal chart

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ ... hoto-memes

"The German chancellor, Olaf Scholz, has posted a photo of himself wearing an eyepatch after injuring his face while jogging.
Scholz sustained minor injuries after falling while out running at the weekend, forcing him to cancel some appointments."


Some conflicing wiews about his birthtime. 15:00 ? Time comes from his mother.
I tried rectification and 15:11 ringed true. Don't know. But use that 15:11 rectified TOB here.

Tropical


transiting Mars conj mars In Aries (head).

Solar arc Mars sesquisquare Ascendant.

Firdaria: Mars - Venus

Tropical Solar return - Mars venus conj Ascendant.
Solar arc Asc 10 Leo conj natal Uranus.

(Solar return below)
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