Re: ROC/Tawain Presidential Election 2024 (Tropical)

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wei,

i am curious if you have any thoughts on the merger of 2 of the candidates here as the election approaches in 2 months time? how does that fit in with your prognosis?

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/asia ... 6f30c.html

a chart for closing time of the election at 4pm - for taipei - the capital has neptune on the midheaven and mars on the descendant - not a great combo of planets to be sitting on angles..also moon is at the approx midpoint of pluto-saturn too, another interesting set up.. i'd compare it to any national chart for taiwan, but it appears nic campions 2004 edition of world horoscopes has no entry for a chart for taiwan... do you have one??

Re: ROC/Tawain Presidential Election 2024 (Tropical)

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Hi james_m

Taiwan (Formosa) is a geographical term. The main island of Taiwan stretches approximately 395 kilometers from north to south, with a maximum width of about 144 kilometers from east to west. The coastline surrounding the island is approximately 1,151 kilometers, and the total area, including the associated islands, is about 35,886.8623 square kilometers. Surrounded by the sea on all sides, the overall shape of the island resembles a long, sweet potato.

Many people have conquered this island throughout history, including Han Chinese (originating from mainland China), Dutches, individuals from the Ming and Qing Dynasty, and the Japanese. The current ruling authority on the island is called the Republic of China.

For more information, you can refer to: [Geography of Taiwan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography_of_Taiwan).

The Republic of China is a fragile government not widely recognized by most countries internationally.

For more details, you can visit: [Taiwan](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan).

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In ancient times, there was a legend that Taiwan was the island of Penglai, where many immortals resided.

Mount Penglai: [Mount Penglai](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Penglai).

Regarding your questions, I will respond to you in the future.

Re: ROC/Tawain Presidential Election 2024 (Tropical)

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Hi james_m,

The presidential election in the Republic of China (Taiwan) has a prelude in the form of the election of mayors in the direct-administered municipalities and counties.

(Local elections)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Local_elections_in_Taiwan

In 2018, the opposition party (Kuomintang) won the majority of mayoral positions in the direct-administered municipalities and counties in Taiwan.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_o ... _elections

However, in the 2020 presidential election in Taiwan, the ruling party (Democratic Progressive Party) once again secured the majority in both the presidential and legislative elections (held concurrently).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Taiw ... l_election

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Taiw ... e_election

In the 2022 mayoral elections for direct-administered municipalities and counties in Taiwan, the opposition party (Kuomintang) similarly won the majority.

https://zh.wikipedia.org/zh-tw/2022年中華民國直轄市長及縣市長選舉

It is worth noting that the presidential candidate elected by the Kuomintang in 2020 was not the party chairman, and the same holds true for the presidential candidate elected by the Kuomintang for the 2024 election.

This indicates internal contradictions and divisions within the Kuomintang. (This time, there are also two other divisive forces, Ko Wen-je and Terry Gou.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Taiw ... l_election

For a party marked by internal contradictions and divisions, it seems challenging to unite and consolidate all its forces.

The cooperation between the Kuomintang (blue) and the Taiwan People's Party (white, represented by Ko Wen-je) was officially meeting on November 15th, from 10:00 AM to 12:30 PM.

With Sagittarius Mercury accurately sextile Libra Venus and the Sun/Mars = Uranus along fixed signs axis, it is apparent to observers that this cooperation is reluctantly forged, with sentiments of discontent and unwillingness prevailing among the parties involved.
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Re: ROC/Tawain Presidential Election 2024 (Tropical)

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Jupiter/Saturn(Leo17.52)(ROC)=Moon(Taurus15.11)(the 4th ruler)(ROC)=Jupiter/Saturn(Scorpio17.52)(PRC)=Mars/Pluto(Leo16.15)(PRC)=Venus(Scorpio19.26)(the 3rd and 4th ruler)(PRC)

1949,Pluto Leo 17

1989,Pluto Scorpio 16

2035,Pluto Aquarius 18

Two "brotherly" and "neighboring" powers are deadlocked over territorial disputes.

Mars/Saturn(Taurus29.45)(in 1st house) (ROC)=Mars/Saturn(Leo29.01)(in 7th house) (PRC)

1957,Pluto Leo 29
Anti-Rightist Campaign:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Rightist_Campaign

1996, Pluto Scorpio 29
1996 Taiwanese presidential election(first direct presidential election in Taiwan):https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_Taiw ... l_election

Re: ROC/Tawain Presidential Election 2024 (Tropical)

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hi wei

thanks for taking the time to try to help me understand what you appear to know much more about - the idea of taiwan as a separate country, as opposed to a province of china and what you base some of this on.. i don't know the history and without that, i am basically looking in the dark... if one had a national astrology chart for taiwan, along with actual birth times for the candidates, they could perhaps make some headway... having the opening and closing time of the election polls is very helpful, but again - without actual birth charts for the candidates - one is fishing in the dark...

as for the fellow who has a lot of similarities astrologically with the election day transits - it is hard to know what they might imply without an actual chart for him as well.. obviously he is a successful business man and in a powerful financial position which generally favours those seeking political power in the west.. i am sure it is something similar in taiwan too, but again - i don't know how things work in taiwan or china...

i hear stories from my friends who live their - one a canuck who has been teaching for the past 13 -14 years, and the other a person born and raised in taiwan.. they are both smart and gave me the impression they recognize how what we hear about in the western press is not a good reflection of how taiwanese are processing what is happening in taiwan....

regarding the picture of the 4 men shaking hands together it gives a time of 1- 2am which is obviously not the time the picture was taken in the location it was taken as it is daylight... so even getting an actual time for that picture is a huge game of guesswork.. it would be helpful to know the location and actual local time of it though, as perhaps some astrological conclusions could be drawn off of it..

cheers james

Re: ROC/Tawain Presidential Election 2024 (Tropical)

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Hi james_m,

I got your point! Thank you.

Yes, the birth information of these candidates is sourced from Wikipedia and may not be entirely accurate. In Chinese tradition, there used to be a practice of recording birthdays based on either the solar or lunar calendar. However, birth certificates are now commonly used, though they cannot be freely accessed. In Taiwan, obtaining a birth certificate requires personal authorization to visit the household registration office for inquiry.

Some of my additional thoughts are as follows:

In 2016, I successfully predicted Trump's election as the President of the United States, but truth be told, I was just a blind cat stumbling upon a dead mouse! (I happened to make a fortunate prediction).

At that time, I had no understanding of the U.S. electoral system and was completely unaware of the electoral college voting system.

I had thoughts and plans to organize the electoral systems and rules of each country and region, but currently, I don't have the time.

I believe it's crucial to first understand the real-world rules of the game (common sense), then align it with astrological insights, and finally, add a touch of personal intuition (or collective unconsciousness). This way, we might have a better chance of foreseeing future developments.
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Regarding the differences in Eastern and Western cultures and perspectives, I feel that I have some understanding.

Perhaps my observations are quite one-sided and superficial (possibly based on stereotypes), but perhaps things are just that evident.

From the Eastern perspective, Westerners are seen as tall and imposing, liking fair and open competition, enjoying discussing matters openly, and engaging in debates. Easterners may have a certain "fear" of Westerners, leaving behind the stereotype of Westerners being proud and arrogant.

From the Western perspective, Easterners are perceived as unpredictable, hard to understand, often not clear about their thoughts. It is not entirely unjustified for Westerners to have such thoughts, as the Eastern approach to life and rules is to "conceal oneself," preferring to handle things behind the scenes. This might be because Easterners are "physically smaller," and survival and victory in battles require the use of hiding and surprise attacks. There is a humorous saying here that Easterners are like small hobbits in the eyes of Westerners.

In the natural world, the first impression is often about evaluating each other's physical stature.

Returning to our topic, political elections.

In Europe, it is possible to form a coalition government involving two or more different parties, as exemplified by the cooperation among the Social Democratic Party, the Green Party, and the Free Democratic Party in Germany (2021). However, in Taiwan (with an Eastern culture, especially since the Kuomintang is a traditionally Eastern cultural party), forming a coalition government is not easy. This is because of differences in culture and habits of dealing with affairs. People are not as open and transparent, not as willing to clearly state their responsibilities and interests on the table, and explain them straightforwardly.

In the 2000 Republic of China presidential election, the first-ever party alternation occurred, and Chen Shui-bian of the Democratic Progressive Party was elected president. However, his party, the DPP, did not secure a majority in the Legislative Yuan. Instead, the opposition Kuomintang (KMT) and the newly established People First Party controlled the legislature, resulting in a situation known as "small in power, big in opposition." In the early days of Chen Shui-bian's presidency, in an effort to address this situation, he appointed Tang Fei, a member of the KMT, to form a cabinet (Tang Fei Cabinet), aiming to establish a grand coalition government. However, the KMT declined the invitation. Following the issue of the Fourth Nuclear Power Plant, the Tang Fei Cabinet resigned en masse, and the idea of forming a grand coalition government collapsed. Subsequently, Chen Shui-bian formed a "minority government" for the remainder of his term.

2000 Taiwanese presidential election

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Taiw ... l_election

Re: ROC/Tawain Presidential Election 2024 (Tropical)

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hi wei

i think when it comes to understanding the eastern, verses the western perspective - these ways of dividing don't go very far.. in fact, people are people no matter where they reside... yes, there are cultural differences, but with regard to power - political power for example, there is a huge amount of manipulation and playing on peoples perception thru the use of propaganda and etc. etc.. one would have to be exceedingly bright to navigate all the pitfalls in trying to understand any of it... i guess what i am trying to say is i think your viewpoint on westerners is very subjective and also full of western type stereotypes that are flat out wrong! i thought i would say this to you ( as a ''westerner'') to try to steer you back to staying focused on the astrology.. that is hard enough to as it is, without trying to generalize the psychological differences between east or western cultures! with the best of intentions - please continue! cheers james

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Hi james_m

I agree with your perspective!

As stargazers, let us observe how humanity utilizes their free will.

:-)

"In the final countdown of the last 25 hours, the Blue and White Integration is underway."

https://www.ettoday.net/news/20231123/2629235.htm

https://www.ettoday.net/news/20231123/2629253.htm

https://www.ettoday.net/news/20231123/2629268.htm

Live: https://tw.news.yahoo.com/藍白合最終章?柯文哲邀到君悅三方會面-侯友宜馬英九1630前往會談-053450057.html

Mars is at 29 degrees in Scorpio, and the Moon is in Aries opposing Venus in Libra (Node axis Aries-Libra). There is a square aspect between the Sun in Sagittarius (the joint government and public) and Saturn in Pisces (cowardice and hindrance). (Moon is translating light from the Sun to Venus and Mercury but without reception between them).

I watched the live broadcast, and the atmosphere was charged with tension. Everything was laid bare in the spotlight. The Aries moon trining the Sagittarius sun !