From another perspective, will this indictment disqualify Trump from running for office (removal from office)? Trump is represented by the Moon, and the Moon's condition is not too bad. Therefore, Trump will still become the Republican presidential nominee (he will not be removed from office/disqualified).

Well, the Moon is soon moving in Leo ruled by the Sun exalted in Aries yes but in the 8th and Lord of the 12th.
Does it look like a joyful band marching on to a funeral?
Trump is right when he said he did not get a fair trial. But the only reason is because he is trapped into his own lies. In India, they have a word 'Moksha' to describe the freedom from the eternal cycle of life, death, and rebirth. A liberation from our own desires (and lies). This is the spiritual meaning behind but if you keep playing in the same game of self-undoing, you are doomed to repeat the same mistakes.

Ouranos wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2024 10:50 am Well, the Moon is soon moving in Leo ruled by the Sun exalted in Aries yes but in the 8th and Lord of the 12th.
Does it look like a joyful band marching on to a funeral?

Your description is truly vivid!

So, can we boldly predict from this that he will not be able to be elected as president? (I assume the purpose of the indictment is to disqualify him from running for the Republican presidential nomination, but honestly, I don't think my logic in this part is clear.)

In primary direction in 2024, Trump's Pluto (the promissor) is getting closer to the Mid-heaven (the significator). His career and public image will undergo significant changes.

Diurnal (Daily) Charts are very interesting. If I understand correctly, they represent some relative motion of the Sun's daily movement. Therefore, the degrees of the Ascendant and Mid-heaven in a person's Diurnal Chart on May 30th (a certain date) each year will not change much, but the positions of other planets will change. Diurnal Charts are a special type of transit (with specific times and locations—birth time and place—hence specific Ascendant and Mid-heaven degrees).

So, can we boldly predict from this that he will not be able to be elected as president? (I assume the purpose of the indictment is to disqualify him from running for the Republican presidential nomination, but honestly, I don't think my logic in this part is clear.)

I think your logic makes sense. The Sun being Exalted in Aries, he remains the leader of the pack.
But the combination of 8th and 12th, the direction and destination are leading on the edge of a precipice.

Diurnal Charts are a special type of transit (with specific times and locations—birth time and place—hence specific Ascendant and Mid-heaven degrees).

Yes, as it says diurnal = daily
There is more to this but the Angular Houses are what concerns you. You are involved so to speak.
I have in the back of my mind Ivy M. Goldstein-Jacobson saying that 'any planet or angle in the same degree as the Nodes points to a catastrophe, casualty, fatality or tragedy.' (p.52 of Simplified Horary Astrology. Trump's diurnal MC is conjunct his NN on July 11th with transiting Saturn sesqui-quadrate and Vulcanus semi-square this position. A lot of people will be connected and attentive on that day.
Vulcanus has this ability to set on fire, to ignite whatever it touches. Here the diurnal MC is also conjunct his natal Vulcanus. During the last Super Bowl in the U.S.A, there was a paran between Zeus and Vulcanus at the beginning of the game. The sky was filled with thunders and fireworks. Zeus was throwing lightnings all over the place.

Hi Ouranos,

Thank you for patiently explaining what diurnal charts are. It helped me understand your astrological analysis.

I find the diurnal charts for May 30th and July 11th very interesting too.

The weapons made by Vulcanus are incredibly sturdy. The chains that bound Prometheus were crafted by Vulcanus.

I would like to add that Trump's birthday is on June 14th. The jury's verdict was reached before June 14th, and the judge's sentencing is anticipated before July 14th. At this time, Trump's Annual and Monthly profections have the ASC in the 7th house and the MC in the 4th house, with other planets opposing their positions in the natal chart (reversed positions – perhaps a president becoming a prisoner or a prisoner becoming a president?).

Ouranos wrote: Sun Jun 02, 2024 2:20 pm During the last Super Bowl in the U.S.A, there was a paran between Zeus and Vulcanus at the beginning of the game. The sky was filled with thunders and fireworks. Zeus was throwing lightnings all over the place.

Could you further explain what this scenario is and what paran means?

Last time, I discovered that in a certain case, Jupiter represented lightning, the weapon of Zeus. In that instance, someone was electrocuted, and the 6th house was populated by the conjunction of Jupiter (lightning) and Uranus (accident/absent-mindedness?), and sextile to Neptune (paralysis).

Could you further explain what this scenario is and what paran means?

Paranatellonta are stars or star groups that fall upon angles at the same time that a significant constellation or planet is also upon the angles. They are viewed as attendants. In ancient astrology the term was also applied to the constellations that ascended with the zodiacal decans.
In modern astrology the term Paran (short for Paranatellonta) is generally used to describe stars or planets that are angular as a planet hits the ascendant, MC, Descendant or IC. For example, the parans of Mercury would be those stars or planets that were rising, culminating, descending of located upon the IC at the same time that Mercury is in any or those positions. Thus if the fixed star Regulus culminates on the Midheaven as Mercury rises on the ascendant it is referred to as a paran of Mercury and considered to have an influence upon its meaning.
https://www.skyscript.co.uk/glossary/paran/

In the case of the Super Bowl, Vulcanus was partile the ASC while Zeus was 1 degree from the 4th. The closer, the stronger.
And I have to make a correction, it is Zeus who ignites but Vulcanus is mighty, strong. It adds up to the quality of the fire of Zeus. And Eris was culminating.
Time recorded: Feb 11, 2024 15h40 PST Las Vegas, Nevada

Last time, I discovered that in a certain case, Jupiter represented lightning, the weapon of Zeus. In that instance, someone was electrocuted, and the 6th house was populated by the conjunction of Jupiter (lightning) and Uranus (accident/absent-mindedness?), and sextile to Neptune (paralysis).

Interesting! Jupiter in poor picture with Uranus can surely bring sudden misfortune. Check what Zeus was doing in the chart.

Paran and aspects in mundo are somewhat similar, with the difference being that paran belongs to the ecliptic coordinate system, while aspects in mundo belong to the equatorial coordinate system.

Aspects in mundo: (https://www.westernsiderealastrology.co ... s-in-mundo)

I am still figuring out how to calculate and view Aspects in mundo using Astro Gold. Previously, I sent an email to the designer of Astro Gold for clarification, but I haven't fully understood his explanation yet. (I have grasped a little; it seems he wants me to directly use the Astro Maps to view the rising, setting, midheaven, and nadir of a particular planet).

The chart I have for the Guilty verdict has Vulcanos right on the MC. Vulcanos = 'Power of the State' apparently.

ASC 12.5 Virgo = the outcast from the community.
DESC 12.5 pisces = the death of the rule of law.

Thank you for the link Wei,

Yes and we have 3 scenarios

1) An aspect in mundo can be accompanied by an aspect in zodiac of the same nature.
This is the most simple and increases their power and effectiveness.

2) An aspect in mundo can be present without being in zodiac.
An aspect in the local sphere. I have seen many cases where they work. Even by PD when for example, the PD ASC reaches a specific planet in mundo or an important midpoint in our chart.
For the Super Bowl, the RA of Zeus and Vulcanus are very close to their in zodiac position.
I check Rise/Set Times in Solar Fire using Topocentric. And you can see that Vulcanus rises at 15h37 and Zeus Anti-culminates at 15h46. This is a Paran.
I would guess you must have a similar feature in Astro Gold.

3) An aspect in mundo can be of a different nature from an aspect in zodiac not having the same nature as him and affecting the same planets. This is the case where for example, a sextile in zodiac can become a square in mundo.
Danièle Jay says in L'Echo d'Hermes (June 2012)
"Where the aspect in zodiac would rather mean the quality of the stars... the aspect in mundo would rather focus on the events induced by the two planets. Either, the aspect in mundo, more individualized, always takes the upper hand."
She says the local sphere takes precedence.

Greg Young wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 1:04 pm The chart I have for the Guilty verdict has Vulcanos right on the MC. Vulcanos = 'Power of the State' apparently.

Actually Vulcanus at 2:55 Leo is exactly square the ascendant of the verdict chart, with 2+ degrees Scorpio rising also square Pluto.

Check out the Full Moon chart from the 23rd of May 2024 (A week before the verdict) set for Manhattan, NY. It has Mars exactly on the MC (and Trump's natal Jupiter exactly on the IC), Pluto on the Descendant and Vulcanus rising ("Others are superior, Changes through the violent interference of others. To experience quick change through the influence of others"). Pluto and Vulcanus are trine/sextile the Full Moon. Mars on MC is sesquiquadrate Moon.

The transit Hades/Kronos (Great baseness and meanness, corrupt government, Poor government, Plain clothes police, The basic formula for a criminal on a big scale) midpoint is on the Sun in the US Sibly chart ("Days of ill fortune, A run of bad luck, The man who is subjected to great baseness, who has to defend himself against a vile action, The government does not keep its promise to him, Much ill fate or death by grave events") .
The Full Moon chart has also a Venus/Jupiter conjunction on the 'Weeping sisters'.

Actually, your favorite astrologer, Archie, discussed this full Moon chart set for New York, about a week before the verdict, and predicted something unusual would be taking place there. Can't recall if he mentioned the Trump trial in this context.

Ouranos wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 2:18 pm I would guess you must have a similar feature in Astro Gold.

Astro Gold only provides Paran information for fixed stars.

Your attachment is exactly what I was looking for, haha. I remember that Astrolog provides information on the rising, setting, midheaven, and nadir times for each planet.