A couple of years back, Ed Gillam and Jill Whitman produced some interesting research into Grand Quintiles, through a lot of research, they found 150 grand quintiles spread over 2,500 years.

As with a lot of research they were careful to include an orb on quintiles that satisfied everyone with sep. orbs.
Some may not agree with the orb structure that they based their observations on, yet this is an area where most astrologers argue, their analysis was based on 3 degree app. and sep. orbs.
This research is well received in the astrological community, and both researchers spend part of their time giving talks to astrological associations throughout the country (U.K.), they have also given talks to the Faculty of Astrological Studies.

Web-link is below:-
www.asteria.freeserve.co.uk/grandquint/

This will lead you to a website for casual reading, yet if you want to read the full bulk of this research, the first few sentences say "Please click here", this will lead to the bulk of their research.

Probably they are writing a book as they dont give the details of each grand quintile, but i'm only interested in the 20th century grand quintiles, of which there were three, the last pentagon in the sky in the 20th Century was on Saturday 15th Feb. 1941, it is this one that i wish to examine on the next thread section.

I'm not interested in Bi-quintiles here, being 144* degrees, which gives the five pointed star shape, but only in quintiles that give the pentagon shape.
So if you adjust your quintiles to 3 degrees on sep orbs we can view this from Washington D.C. on Saturday 15th Feb. 1941 at 12:00 noon.

The pentagon shape consists of Mercury, Mars, Moon, Pluto, and Uranus.
The orbs are Moon quintile Mars 00*11' app., Moon quintile Pluto 01*34' sep.,Mercury quintile Mars 02*44' app., Mercury quintile Uranus 02*55' sep., and Uranus quintile Pluto 01*35' sep.

Franklin Roosevelt was a 32nd degree mason, so although speculation, i wonder if there was an element of "As above, As below" attached to The Pentagon, with this previous astrological alignment, it was only a few months later on 11th Sept 1941 that the ground breaking ceremony took place.

After 15th Feb. 1941, there were no other astrological pentagons in the 20th Century by using only Planets.

In the next few days i will be placing on thread details of "The French Revolutionary Calendar, that was only used for a few years.

There is so many conflicting reports of the French Republican Calendar, that i will move on for a while to more crucial evidence, yet i will come back to it at a latter date.

My next investigation, i hope will bring forth comments, i wonder, lets see!

In tune with David Ovason's Book called "The Secret Architecture of our Nations Capitol", i wish to look at the laying of the cornerstone of the White House.

Generally investigators in this field look to find evidence of the time of the laying of the Cornerstone, when we know evidence of this is lost, it would seem this happened in the afternoon.

It is my thesis that George Washington chose this day of the Cornerstone Laying of The White House, by the exact minute of the start of 13th October 1792.

This is in alignment to calendar reform that took place at "Mid-Night" on 1st Jan. where Sirius is aligned to an angle.

So lets see what is achieved by setting our chart to 00:00am on 13th October 1792, location Washington D.C., District of Colombia, United States.

Anyone out there willing to tell me "what star on angle for moment", by paran measurement is aligned to the Ascendant?

Come on, dont be a chicken!

We all know that the opening ceremony of "The Statue of Liberty" took place on 28th Oct. 1886, but this date wasnt the intended opening of this statue.
It was agreed between Bartholdi/French Government and the American Government that this Icon was to be presented to the American people on 4th July 1876, but construction was delayed, so it couldnt be presented on the intended day, of cause this was a very important date in the history of America, but it masked another Egyptian quality.

On 4th July 1876 (intended date of opening) hides a very important fact.
The Sun rose at 04:39, so set up a chart for this date and have a look at stars that are conjunct the Sun and Asc. by projected measurement.

This is the exact time of the rising of the Sun where you will find it conjunct Sirius and the Asc. by projected!

As far as if this statue has any properties to Isis, i have no comment, i'm more interested in astrological statements!

Further to this i'm not saying anybody is intending harm by following a secret religion, although i'm against anything being done by stealth.

Secret religions have always said they know the secrets of life, all i'm saying is, "open it up so we all can make informed choices".

Everyone gets suspicious if this doesn't take place!

I didn't say location, but obviously set up chart for New York!

It is reasonable to assume that the Declaration of Independence, put in Place by George Washington is cloaked in mystery.
Anyone who researches this subject will know it may have taken place, the day before, this whole area is the subject of mystery.
I would have thought that placing 4th July as "The Special Date" would leave a hundred years of settlement, before monuments were erected, that have a special relationship to Egypt.

We may speculate that there was a ceremony on 3rd July 1776, which cloaks due to procession the Sirius position a century later with laying of cornerstone celebrations.

To follow electional astrology, firstly we must agree that it is hidden, and the subject of stealth, hence we have to work out the patterns.

On 3rd July 1776 by projected measurement we would agree that in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, that the Sun rose at approx. 04:41am conjunct the Asc. and Sirius by a degree measurement by projected.

The electional astrology here follows one rule, which is the different perceptions of the start of the day, this is followed by paran and projected measurements, and are mixed and changed constantly.

We know if we set up a chart for the exact minute of the day that the cornerstone of the White House was laid, being one perception of the start of the day, we find that at 00:00am on 13th October 1792 in Washington D.C., District of Columbia, that Sirius is rising by paran on the Asc.

Further to this we can look at another perception of the start of the day which is Sunrise.
We know at one stage of the "Washington Monument", politicians wanted it to be a Pyramid, eventually it took the form of an Egyptian Obelisk.

We can verify this by these web-sites:-
www.nps.gov/archive/wamo/history/chap1.htm

And chapter two:-
www.nps.gov/archive/wamo/history/chap2.htm.

We know that Sunday 4th July, 1848 was the day selected for laying of the cornerstone, in Washington D.C., so lets look at another perception of the beginning of the day which is Sunrise!

Set up a chart for 4th July 1848, for Washington D.C. at Sun rise, which is 04:44am.
This will show Sun conjunct Sirius conjunct Asc. by projected measurement, although modified very close to Egyptian beliefs and Isis!

As it is a secret religion i have no idea of the ethics and morality of this faith, are we dealing with Harry Potter or Sirius Black?

If we look on Wikipedia involving The Jefferson Memorial, we find it was officially dedicated on 13th April 1943, the 200th anniversary of Jefferson's birthday.

In line with my observations over different perceptions over the start of the day, if we set up a chart for approx. 06:39am, being Sun rise, for Washington D.C., District of Columbia, U.S.A., we find the I.C. at 12*24' Cancer, and the Desc. at 22*13' Libra.

You may find it interesting that that for 1943, Sirius is at 13*18' Cancer, and Spica is at 23*03' Libra, whether you find this strange when we look at the projected measurement, that these stars are aligned to the Desc. and I.C., and if this is reverse stealth astrology, i leave up to you to work out!

Firstly, lets work out things that trouble different members that write on this forum, Generally Americans do have deep religious feelings, many politicians do apply Christian sentiments to their actions, and the "Christian belt" can influence who is President.

Obviously what i write can bring up a lot of emotions, there is nothing wrong in being religious, yet i feel things are more complex.

Obviously there are many Americans that go to church, where as in England, many may feel we are non-religious, as hardly anyone goes to church these days, i am a moderate Christian, disabled and therefore this isnt an option for me.

But i am not in favour of hypocrisy, where ever this takes place, in England or any other country.

Graham Hancock & Robert Bauval has written a book called "Talisman, Sacred Cities, Secret Faith, it is concise, moderate and gives a middle course through history, with how faiths have evolved.

However, through astrology i can see there is a great deal more to discuss on this matter.....lets go into the reasons why!

Firstly they are not astrologers, and many of their observations are due to astronomy, this shows up possible elected astrology only when we are dealing with THE PARAN.

Now the paran is shown on astronomy programmes as an actual measurement, many astronomers have felt it is weird that Sirius is so clearly marked, on 1st January, but this isnt the case when we switch to the Projected Measurement, that has been used for centuries by astrologers.

Take a paran, like Sirius rising along the curve of the Earth, astronomers can see that!

Yet when Sirius is Conjunct the Ascendent and Sun by projected, this doesnt show up in astronomy, thus these aspects are beyond scientists or researchers of electional astrology.

This much i will say, if researchers had seen how the projected measurement worked, with dates and times, there would be a lot more heat on the subject i write on, that you can be sure of!

There has been very few times that i have written on conspiracy sites, i would not consider Nick Kollerstrom, in anyway connected to this subject, but there is no doubt that Graham Hancock and Robert Bauval do watch religions and troubles that may be incurred by muddled policy and faiths on top of each other!

They also show some concern with masons, yet many of their books are on reading lists given out by astrology associations, can you blame me for opening this subject up?

Graham Hancock is always on the Geographic television, i would have thought if this subject is taboo, then astrologers shouldnt write on Graham Hancocks forum, whatever the material.

Again i say i feel for the people that died in Minneapolis, Minnesota, and although my comments were humerous, they were in no way connected to this tragic accident, but to comments posted previously.

A) I was some what laughing at myself, notice i posted that i was a "tough cracked Nut!
But that is for you to prove by careful analysis and comment, even by heated debate, i'm used to that, it always happens in Prime Minister's question time!

2) The thought of George W. Bush sneaking around with a bag of tools loosening nuts and bolts is funny!

3) Undoubtedly comments to my observations may get heated, but please give them, you dont do this forum any favours if you dont.
You will notice that i apologise if needed, especially as my health isnt good!
Heated responses are ok, with astrological backup, i cannot say better than that!

4) What i write does need responding to, i left the Juno factor to see if you jumped on that being the easy way out, and not address my concerns over alleged electional astrology showing grounds of suspecting that another religion was connected!

5) Please leave the Juno factor for another day, it is research, i'm just pleased i have had so many hits on the Juno thread, whatever the outcome!

6) There is no "Upmanship" in play with my observations, but lack of involvement on your part isnt the answer, to many who view this forum on the outside, we do have many heated debates, yet on this thread there is no comment by others, other views are needed, and i welcome that, if i am proven wrong is not the issue, but debate is needed!

Hi Coder,
S.G. Foxe doesnt deserve this on his thread, please respond on this one, i dont often comment on others threads, if i thought i needed to, it was only because of humour, regarding G.W.Bush's involvement in a tragic accident!

Dont expect moderators to comment, this issue is for those who write on this forum, obviously moderators cant comment.

As i am a very moderate Christian, who is very angry, let me torment you!
From Unispal which supply accurate documents on Leaque of Nations, and U.N., lets put this one on thread:-

Report on Palestine Administration 1922.

Dated 31st Dec. 1922.

For Palestine, the principal event of the year 1922 has been the approval by the Council of the Leaque of Nations on July 24th , 1922, of the British Mandate for the administration of the territory.
The Promulgation, however, of the Mandate, as well as of the French Mandate for the neighbouring territory of Syria, was conditional on certain agreements being reached between the Governments of France and Italy relating to Italian interests in Syria.

His Majesty the King in council enacted, on August 10th 1922, the Palestine order in council, which defines the powers of the High Commissioner, prescribed the formation of an Executive Council and of a Legislative Council, and regulated the constitution and powers of the Palestine Judiciary, with special provision for religious and for tribal courts.

The constitution and method of election of the Legislative Council were further defined in the Palestine Legislative Council Election Order, which was enacted at the same time.

Both were promulgated in Palestine on the !st of September, 1922. The formal commission of his majesty, appointing as High Commisioner and Commander in Chief for Palestine the Right Honourable Sir Herbert Samuel, G.B.E., who had been acting in that capacity since July 1st, 1920, was issued on August 14th.

THE OATHS OF OFFICE WERE ADMINISTERED AT JERUSALEM ON SEPTEMBER 11th, BY THE CHIEF JUSTICE!!!!!!

Ooops, Ground Breaking Ceremony of Pentagon!

The British Mandate wasnt legal till the oath of Office.

Here we go back to the Ancient Coptic Calendar again!

Oaths of Office should be made on the Bible not on the works of Hermes Trismegistus!

Website link for Hermes Trismegistus :-

www.themystica.com/mystica/articles/h/h ... istus.html

I want to follow a simple faith on the teachings of Jesus, i dont want high magic involved!

Before we go further, i'm trying to get a web-link to work:-

www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/MFAArchive/1990_1999 ... 0el-Sheikh%...