Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 6:59 am
Hi all,
I agree that the key is the conjunction of the planets.
But I think that the key can?t be used without the help from the chart of the annual revolution (Aries ingress in one opinion). Also if there is an eclipse immediately before this also should be taken in consideration.
Pedro Ciruelo also mentions the syzygia before the conjunction of planets.
Regarding the annual revolution there are some authors that consider the syzygia before aries ingress.
As a conclusion (a personal conclusion): it seems that there are many charts involved, and this is at least strange, if not quite insurmountable. My opinion is that we can understand the role of each of these charts by understanding the role of the reference moments to these charts: in order to have influence, the conjunction must acquire some pertinence in that year. This pertinence is obtained, in my opinion, from the annual revolution, and especially from the quadrant immediately before that conjunction. So we must see if in the annual revolution, or quadrant before conjunction, that conjunction is a key element, or at least is linked with a key element of these charts. More we are approaching to shorter cycles, more we are dealing with establishing the moment when that conjunction will produce its effect: so from this perspective I would analyze the rest of following syzygia, and also the quadrants of the years (of course we must apply the rules establish by the ancients to determine the duration of this conjunction, and also to keep in mind that the intensity would be influenced by other future events: for example depends on the future annual revolutions).
Now, another important issue is to determine the key of that conjunction. Here we have to analyze the conjunction?s chart, but also the chart for the sun rise/sun set of that day, the syzygia before the conjunction. In this charts we have to find and analyze, in my opinion, all the basic elements of the traditional astrology (for example: essential dignity, accidental dignity, sect etc.), but to keep in mind that the annual revolution (and quadrants) is the one that is going to determine which one of these potentials is going to be pertinent.
As a very personal opinion, I observed that the analyze of the sky for the quadrant before some important event (nota bene, the observation of the sky, especially at sun rise/sun set) is quite very suggestive for the nature of the event.
Hope I didn?t create confusion. If so, please ignore.
I agree that the key is the conjunction of the planets.
But I think that the key can?t be used without the help from the chart of the annual revolution (Aries ingress in one opinion). Also if there is an eclipse immediately before this also should be taken in consideration.
Pedro Ciruelo also mentions the syzygia before the conjunction of planets.
Regarding the annual revolution there are some authors that consider the syzygia before aries ingress.
As a conclusion (a personal conclusion): it seems that there are many charts involved, and this is at least strange, if not quite insurmountable. My opinion is that we can understand the role of each of these charts by understanding the role of the reference moments to these charts: in order to have influence, the conjunction must acquire some pertinence in that year. This pertinence is obtained, in my opinion, from the annual revolution, and especially from the quadrant immediately before that conjunction. So we must see if in the annual revolution, or quadrant before conjunction, that conjunction is a key element, or at least is linked with a key element of these charts. More we are approaching to shorter cycles, more we are dealing with establishing the moment when that conjunction will produce its effect: so from this perspective I would analyze the rest of following syzygia, and also the quadrants of the years (of course we must apply the rules establish by the ancients to determine the duration of this conjunction, and also to keep in mind that the intensity would be influenced by other future events: for example depends on the future annual revolutions).
Now, another important issue is to determine the key of that conjunction. Here we have to analyze the conjunction?s chart, but also the chart for the sun rise/sun set of that day, the syzygia before the conjunction. In this charts we have to find and analyze, in my opinion, all the basic elements of the traditional astrology (for example: essential dignity, accidental dignity, sect etc.), but to keep in mind that the annual revolution (and quadrants) is the one that is going to determine which one of these potentials is going to be pertinent.
As a very personal opinion, I observed that the analyze of the sky for the quadrant before some important event (nota bene, the observation of the sky, especially at sun rise/sun set) is quite very suggestive for the nature of the event.
Hope I didn?t create confusion. If so, please ignore.