Hi Mario, you really like rugby, you know all details!
I ask this because I suspect that thay were "born" in sheep year. You know that if someone is born in January of current year, he is in fact in Chinese horoskope animal of previous year. Unfortunately I have no chinese program who supports year before 1890, so I can not tell right now if thay are sheep or not. But I will post this question on astro.com forum and I think I will get answer so try to analyse where I made mistake.

Hi Goca,

There was a New Moon on 21 Jan 1871, so Sheep year would start on 22 Jan. So that puts RFU foundation date in Sheep year.

Thank you Ficina, I will try to analyse where I made mistake.

From astro.com forum I got these answer:

"The Imperial Astrologer calculates it as the year of the Yang Metal Horse, month of the Yin Earth Ox, Day of the Yin Fire Rabbit.

In the Solar Calendar (usually used for the Year Pillar) the Chinese New Year started on 4th February 1871. The lunar new year was on 19th February 1871.

Alice"

Alice knows Chinese astrology, Vedic and western, so I believe her.
Mario, do you have some chinese astroprogram who calculates these elements? Are these data for Sauit Africa OK?

The Chinese New Year starts the day after the second New Moon after the Winter Solstice. There was a New Moon on the same day as the Winter Solstice on 22 Dec 1870. The Sun entered Capricorn just after midnight and the New Moon occurred just after midday, but I suppose since it was the same day it didn't count. So the New Moon on 21 Jan must have been counted as the first one, and 19 Feb the second one.

Sorry about that, Goca, but it was one of those awkward years

OK Ficina, it is important that we agreee about that. I must admit I have no idea how it works...

I have eventual explanation why France do not win:
Sheep compatible with pig=9
sheep=yin earth+ yin fire
year of birth= yin earth
2007=yin fire+yin water+yin wood
so we have
2 yin earth
2 yin fire
1 yin water
1 yin wood

Fire "produce" earth, but too much earth decrese water, that decrease produce wood, so flame is not so big.

But for England Yang Metal Horse
Horse and Pig are not so compatible=6
Horse=yang fire
year of birth=Yang Metal
2007=yin fire+yin water+yin wood
so we have
1 yang Metal
1 yin fire+ 1 yang fire
1 yin water
1 yin wood
yang Metal+yin wood=Metal
Metal produce water, water wood and wood help fire to burn! All will be OK if we do not count that Horse and Pig are not so compatble. But from future investigation we will see what is more important, year or element...

BBC sport:

"South Africa will play England in the World Cup final after beating Argentina 37-13 in Paris. "

S Africa v Argentina
Moon squares Saturn (L10)
Antiscion PoF conj Asc - I've found this works in footie charts. It's just over 2 degs, so might not be close enough.France and S Africa are the favourites so I'm giving them the Asc. Anyway, with Jupiter so strong I think they will be close contests but the faves will prevail.

Wel done Ficina , congratulations!

Thank you, Goca

World Cup final
England Vs. South Africa
Oct 20, 2007, 19:00 GMT
Paris, France
Who Win!!!!

For England sport kit is white colour I think, but for S.Africa?

Dark green and gold.

Thanks.