Well, I placed my bet on France today at time 10.10 LST (09.10 GMT)
Odds 9:1

Local Asc 20SG38. The Moon 24LE21 applying to Jupiter 25SG50 in the first house. Jupiter sat on his own throne. MC 9SC26. Mars 10CN50 retrograde trine Midheavan. Venus, lady of the hour, applying in a sextile to lord of the asc. Both in their propper signs.

Saturn 8VI14 rules 2nd house, and is joined to Fortuna in the 8th. These are square Sun through signs of long ascension. The Sun is in his own triplicity. Saturn casts a sextile to the Midheavan, and Mars, lord of the Midheaven retrogrades to meet him.

Anyone happen to have the natal chart of Holland/Netherlands?
An accurate birth time too?

By chinese astrology I got differnet result from horary:

2008 is chinese year Rat, yang earth

1.Portugal 1914 Tiger, yang wood
yang wood and yang earth are in conflict but Rat and
Tiger are in sextile /-,+

2.Czech 1901 Ox, yin metal
yang earth and yin metal are friend, ox and Rat are
neutral/+,.

3.Netherlands 1889, Ox, yin earth
yang earth and yin earth are friend, ox and Rat are
neutra/+,.

4.France 1919, sheep, yin earth
yang earth and yin earth are friend, Sheep and rat are in
inconjunction, so/ +,-

5.Croatia 1992, Monkey, yang water
yang earth and yang water are in conflict, but Monkey
and Rat are in trine, so/ -,+

6.Germany 1900, Rat, yang metal
yang earth and yang metal are friend, years are same,
Rat so/ +,+

7.Sweden 1904, Dragon, yang wood
yang earth and yang wood are in conflict but Dragon and
rat are in trine/ -,+

8.Turkey 1923, Pig, yin water
yang earth and yin water are in conflict, Pig and rat are
neutral / -,.

9.Romania 1909, Rooster, yin earth
yang earth and yin earth are friends but Rooster and rat
are in square/ +,-

10.Austria 1904, Dragon, yang wood
yang earth and yang wood are in conflict, but dragon
and Rat are in trine/ -,+

11.Russia 1912, Rat, yang water
yang earth and yang water are in conflict, but years are
same/ -,+


12.Switzerland 1895, Sheep yin wood
yang earth and yin wood are in conflict, and Sheep and
Rat are in inconjunction /-,-

13.Poland 1919, Sheep, yin earth
yang earth and yin earth are friend, but Sheep and Rat
are in inconjunction /+,-

14.Greece 1926, Tiger, yang fire
Yang earth and Yang fire are friend, Tiger and Rat are in
sextile/ +,+

15.Spain 1909, Rooster, yin earth
yang earth and yin earth are friend, but Rooster and rat
are insquare/ +,-

16. Italy 1898, Dog, yang earth
yang earth and yang earth are friends, dog and rat are in
sextile/ +,+

So in my opinion best chace to be winner this year has (in this order):

1.Germany
2.Greece
3.Italy

Hi Andrew,
I love France, but I casted the chart of the final: 8:45pm 29Jun, Vienna (Asc = 6 Cap, IC = 8 Taurus) and got slightly different result. My prediction is Germany (signified by Moon Lord of 7th, 21 Taurus, 4th house) as the winner, and Russia (Saturn Lord of Asc, 4 Virgo, 8th house) finishes second.
cheers
Kien

Kien, can you explain to us how you link Germany with Cancer sign, or Moon in Ta? As I know Germany is under Ar sign...

Hi Goca,
I didn't take the natural sign of the country. I took the Moon in 4th house but not close to the cusp means the team is not of home country, but from a very close neighbour. Moon in Taurus of exaltation also indicates special affinity with the home country. Being in the NorthWest quarter of heaven, the direction points toward, Czech, Germany, Netherlands & France. From all that, my inclination is toward the German.
best
Kien

Thanks for this interesting explanation.

Well, France is out of the tournement and I would have to confess I offered a prediction that didn't work out. Mercury retrograde or error in judgement? Either way I hate it for sure!

What is fogging my track record? I have to stop and take a breath and reflect upon the meaning and role of offering predictions that in fact do not work out. Are they a downfall for the science/art and artist, or are they a neccesity in the name of research? Someone has the get things wrong in order to uncover the right path, but we all have to be careful in which way we contribute. The field of sports and gaming is certainly more suited for playful exercise, than carrying unwarrented malice into the lives of clients.

It will be interesting to see whether the horary chart makes sense when the contest is completed, and equally so if anyone else got it right. Why do I take this so seriously? I ask myself. It is only a game. I will certainly be following the tournement through to the finals and my good wishes go to the predictions of other contributors. Back to the drawing board and the pencil sharpner!

Well, France is out of the tournement and I would have to confess I offered a prediction that didn't work out.

Me, too, my favorite upon that chart was Austria(?!). But as you said:It will be interesting to see whether the horary chart makes sense when the contest is completed and to learn something...

I wouldn't be suprized to see Germany in the 2008 final, facing a Leo nation, or we could get a repeat of the World Cup finals between Italy and France.

France are out. Germany and Italy are still in as the final comes near. I follow the rest of the tournement with excitement. I am sure we will have an aftermath.

German is stronger...they will succeed

Well, Italy are out. At the moment it feels as if Germany will win by default - but there is still room for suprizes!