Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:50 am
We have two charts left, numbers four and five. In order to squeeze as much out of this as I can, I?m going to discuss the individuals, but not tell you which chart is which until the end. You could sneak a peek down I suppose, but just who is so childish as to do that? The real purpose here is to hone one?s skills.
Before we begin in earnest, I know what question is on everyone?s lips. If he wasn?t moderating, how would Tom have done on this exercise? Simple. I would have gotten it right.
So there are two charts left. One is our murderer and one is a woman I know and you don?t. Starting with her. She is bright, very witty, and quite attractive. Her chart is in my files under her nickname and when I was looking through the list I thought to myself, ?who the hell is that?? I picked the chart after I remembered, but only remembered something else a few days later. It seems when she was about 19, if I recall all this correctly, she was working at a convenience store late at night. An armed robber came in the store and she turned over all the cash she had. He became enraged that there was so little, took her outside and shot her in the leg. Although she recovered, the experience had to be terrifying. Despite some obvious talents she?s had her share of struggles. Since I don't have permission, I?m not going into kind of detail. Let?s say that things could have gone better for her, but she?s no killer.
Our murderer is a man named Harry Tracy (1875 ? 1902). Actually that isn?t his real name. He was born Harry Severn or Severns and lived the life of an outlaw. Not too much is known about his early life other than he once travelled with Butch Cassidy?s ?Hole in the Wall? gang. Prior to his final killing spree he is said to have been arrested for a killing but escaped before trial. Tracy made his living largely from robberies and he was finally captured in 1901 and sentenced to prison. On June 9, 1902, he and a partner escaped killing three guards and one or two civilians (depending on where you read it) in the process. This triggered a manhunt and media frenzy. Tracy would ultimately kill his partner who was also his brother-in-law before being discivered. Tracy was located at a ranch and soon a posse of 50 or more men went to get him. A gun battle broke out and Tracy was severely wounded in his leg. Hiding in the dark in a wheat field he may have ultimately bled to death from his wound, but chose instead to take his own life. Tracy is considered the last of the Old West desperadoes. One newspaper claimed:
"In all the criminal lore of the country there is no record equal to that of Harry Tracy for cold-blooded nerve, desperation and thirst for crime. Jesse James, compared with Tracy, is a Sunday school teacher." --
Seattle Daily Times July 3, 1902
I don?t know about that but it demonstrates the type of individual we?re dealing with.
Of the two charts does this man seem like the kind who would have four planets in great dignity like Chart 4? If you answered ?no? you?re right. Harry Tracy is chart number three. My lady friend Jennifer is chart number four.
You might think looking at her chart with Jupiter in Sagittarius, Mars in Capricorn, Sun in Aries, and Venus in Pisces that things would go really well for her. Not really. Despite some obvious gifts she?s had her share of ups and downs. As I noted above her intelligence is obvious and she is very, very quick witted and I always thought had good potential to be a writer. I lost touch with her a long time ago and have no idea where she is or how things are for her now. I hope they are well.
What is most striking about Tracy?s chart is that the only planets above the horizon are the malefics. Also with four planets in Scorpio everything goes back to Mars and Mars goes back to Saturn in the 8th. I?m not sure this is enough to brand a native a killer, but it isn?t nice or doesn?t seem so with hindsight working in my corner.
In the chart the part of fortune is on Algol. But this is a night chart and my computer calculates all charts using the day formula. So if you reverse, the part of spirit is on Algol and that?s probably worse. The MC is on Scheat a fixed star associated with Shipwrecks and Harry?s life was a shipwreck. Robson tells us:
?It causes extreme misfortune, murder, suicide, and drowning.?
Two out of three ain?t bad. Pollux rises:
?It gives a subtle, crafty, spirited, brave, audacious, cruel and rash nature, a love of boxing, dignified malevolence, and is connected with poisons.?
Spend a little time reading about Harry and you'll see that fits, but Robson isn?t done.
?If rising. Bad eyes, blindness, injuries to the face, sickness, wounds, imprisonment, ephemeral honor and preferment.?
When he committed suicide, Harry shot himself in the face near or through the eye. He was also, briefly, famous.
His temperament is very cold and I think that is worth looking at with caution. Some killers are going to have a lot of heat. I suppose it colors why they kill. Sharon Tate?s chart is cold but very wet as well.
Tracy killed as part of his work. He once supposedly said that he never killed a woman or child. He was apparently proud of that, although he wasn?t above threatening women and children with death if his wishes weren?t followed. That it was part of his work made it acceptable to him. This is the twisted part. This might be the key to unlocking the chart, if we knew where to find it. What is it that allows people to believe that robbing, raping, and murdering is somehow an acceptable form of behavior?
Thank you all again for all the effort put into this exercise.
Tom
Before we begin in earnest, I know what question is on everyone?s lips. If he wasn?t moderating, how would Tom have done on this exercise? Simple. I would have gotten it right.
So there are two charts left. One is our murderer and one is a woman I know and you don?t. Starting with her. She is bright, very witty, and quite attractive. Her chart is in my files under her nickname and when I was looking through the list I thought to myself, ?who the hell is that?? I picked the chart after I remembered, but only remembered something else a few days later. It seems when she was about 19, if I recall all this correctly, she was working at a convenience store late at night. An armed robber came in the store and she turned over all the cash she had. He became enraged that there was so little, took her outside and shot her in the leg. Although she recovered, the experience had to be terrifying. Despite some obvious talents she?s had her share of struggles. Since I don't have permission, I?m not going into kind of detail. Let?s say that things could have gone better for her, but she?s no killer.
Our murderer is a man named Harry Tracy (1875 ? 1902). Actually that isn?t his real name. He was born Harry Severn or Severns and lived the life of an outlaw. Not too much is known about his early life other than he once travelled with Butch Cassidy?s ?Hole in the Wall? gang. Prior to his final killing spree he is said to have been arrested for a killing but escaped before trial. Tracy made his living largely from robberies and he was finally captured in 1901 and sentenced to prison. On June 9, 1902, he and a partner escaped killing three guards and one or two civilians (depending on where you read it) in the process. This triggered a manhunt and media frenzy. Tracy would ultimately kill his partner who was also his brother-in-law before being discivered. Tracy was located at a ranch and soon a posse of 50 or more men went to get him. A gun battle broke out and Tracy was severely wounded in his leg. Hiding in the dark in a wheat field he may have ultimately bled to death from his wound, but chose instead to take his own life. Tracy is considered the last of the Old West desperadoes. One newspaper claimed:
"In all the criminal lore of the country there is no record equal to that of Harry Tracy for cold-blooded nerve, desperation and thirst for crime. Jesse James, compared with Tracy, is a Sunday school teacher." --
Seattle Daily Times July 3, 1902
I don?t know about that but it demonstrates the type of individual we?re dealing with.
Of the two charts does this man seem like the kind who would have four planets in great dignity like Chart 4? If you answered ?no? you?re right. Harry Tracy is chart number three. My lady friend Jennifer is chart number four.
You might think looking at her chart with Jupiter in Sagittarius, Mars in Capricorn, Sun in Aries, and Venus in Pisces that things would go really well for her. Not really. Despite some obvious gifts she?s had her share of ups and downs. As I noted above her intelligence is obvious and she is very, very quick witted and I always thought had good potential to be a writer. I lost touch with her a long time ago and have no idea where she is or how things are for her now. I hope they are well.
What is most striking about Tracy?s chart is that the only planets above the horizon are the malefics. Also with four planets in Scorpio everything goes back to Mars and Mars goes back to Saturn in the 8th. I?m not sure this is enough to brand a native a killer, but it isn?t nice or doesn?t seem so with hindsight working in my corner.
In the chart the part of fortune is on Algol. But this is a night chart and my computer calculates all charts using the day formula. So if you reverse, the part of spirit is on Algol and that?s probably worse. The MC is on Scheat a fixed star associated with Shipwrecks and Harry?s life was a shipwreck. Robson tells us:
?It causes extreme misfortune, murder, suicide, and drowning.?
Two out of three ain?t bad. Pollux rises:
?It gives a subtle, crafty, spirited, brave, audacious, cruel and rash nature, a love of boxing, dignified malevolence, and is connected with poisons.?
Spend a little time reading about Harry and you'll see that fits, but Robson isn?t done.
?If rising. Bad eyes, blindness, injuries to the face, sickness, wounds, imprisonment, ephemeral honor and preferment.?
When he committed suicide, Harry shot himself in the face near or through the eye. He was also, briefly, famous.
His temperament is very cold and I think that is worth looking at with caution. Some killers are going to have a lot of heat. I suppose it colors why they kill. Sharon Tate?s chart is cold but very wet as well.
Tracy killed as part of his work. He once supposedly said that he never killed a woman or child. He was apparently proud of that, although he wasn?t above threatening women and children with death if his wishes weren?t followed. That it was part of his work made it acceptable to him. This is the twisted part. This might be the key to unlocking the chart, if we knew where to find it. What is it that allows people to believe that robbing, raping, and murdering is somehow an acceptable form of behavior?
Thank you all again for all the effort put into this exercise.
Tom
And you get big applause too, even though you made us suffer with this.