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Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:04 pm
by Deb
PPS I know it's Wikipedia but the section on Roman naming conventions describes how the 'middle' name was the family/clan name and the third name was only used to distinguish between different people with the same name. So that's presumably why 'Firmicus' is used - it's what we would term his 'surname'. 'Maternus' would be more like a nickname.
That must be the answer then. In any case, it's good enough for me - why this struck me as so important this morning, is now beyond me (it's only a reference, it's more important that I have a good point that needs the reference). Thanks for that. It now makes sense to me too - so this thread culminates in a good answer and everyone understanding what we're talking about. We don't get many of those in half a day here!
Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:51 pm
by handn
so this thread culminates in a good answer and everyone understanding what we're talking about. We don't get many of those in half a day here!
Quick, lock the thread!
Once I'd read them, the naming conventions seemed vaguely familiar from my school Latin lessons.... all a haze.... if only I'd paid more attention then.
As for this thread, I learned something and I had fun and eventually I was useful rather than an eejit, and funnily enough I was just about to start reading the man in question's multi-book, which is probably why this caught my eye, so thanks for bringing it up!
Regards
H.
Posted: Wed Jun 16, 2010 8:17 pm
by Chris Brennan
A few weeks ago I was working on a bio of Firmicus for my book and I realized that I had referred to him as Firmicus rather than Maternus consistently throughout it, and I wondered if I should go through and change it to Maternus. Somehow that didn't feel right though, or it sounded kind of awkward compared to what was clearly the prevailing convention. I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who has stumbled across this rather peculiar little issue.
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:58 am
by handn
Perhaps for our purposes a simpler/clearer treatment than Wikipedia is here:
http://www.vroma.org/~bmcmanus/roman_names.html
Regards
H.
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:45 pm
by horarcek
Perhaps Margherita could help to solve this doubt.
Margherita, are you on vacation?
Trojan
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 1:31 pm
by margherita
horarcek wrote:Perhaps Margherita could help to solve this doubt.
Margherita, are you on vacation?
Trojan
Margherita is doing her baggage to hear Deborah and Giuseppe Bezza in Perugia, the day after tomorrow
About Firmicus I don't know, in Italian we call him mostly Firmico.
Or rarer Firmico Materno, never Materno without Firmico, like in English.
margherita
Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:10 pm
by yuzuru
Lucky Marguerita.
Unlucky yuzuru
But there is plenty of conferences around here about the "effects of quiron on synastry"

Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 11:12 am
by Sunny Dawn
Darn Latins, they all married their cousins, and ended up with the same set of 2 dozen names, the whole lot of them. Loved this thread!