"Until recently" referred to the article that I think said until about the 1960s the words were used interchangeably.

Not in Manchester, Pal!

As a young lad kicking a football around the cobbled backstreets of Salford the only time the namby pamby word 'soccer' was uttered was from the pages of some new glossy magazine or annual calling itself by that name or from denizens of the 'soft south'. I would expect supporters of Tottenham Hotspurs or Chelsea to have use the term but the idea of anyone from Manchester, Leeds or Liverpool (or any other industrial canal environs) using the term would not only be unlikely but unadvisable and potentially risky to both life and limb.

'Soccer' sounds like something thought up by Saachi and Saachi to deprive already poverty stricken sooty-faced bare-footed urchins of the cobbles like me from their hardearned pocket money.

ps. Toms picture looks uncannily reminiscent of the Capt from the US series 'The Love Boat', I was suspicious of it from day one.

yuzuru wrote:

ecret pseudonyms happen - how do we know that this entire thread is not another of John Frawley's shameless attempts to raise the profile of his book on Sports Astrology?

I have a recording of Frawley?s lecture, with Tom making a question, so I guess John is also good with ventriloquism

A ventriloquist as well eh? yet another string to this renaissance mans' bow. Can he play the spoons? Rumour has it that Frawley has often been seen propped up at country pubs shaking his Morris Dancers hat. Thats his street cred up in flames!

Does the real John Frawley of The Real Astrology fame know you're talking about him like this? He would never defend the use of the word "soccer."

I don't believe there is a real John Frawley. He's just a myth. Yes I've met someone claiming to be John Frawley a few times, and gave him a few tips about book covers the last time I saw him, but how do we know that was him and not you? We've never actually met you have we? And come to think of it, that photo you use does look suspiciously like an actor from Love Boat - did someone just say that?

Deb wrote:... Yes I've met someone claiming to be John Frawley a few times, and gave him a few tips about book covers the last time I saw him...

LOL

Strange things are going on in this forum, but I'm saying no more

Deb has such a curious way of meeting the important deadlines she keeps telling us about.

All right Mr Saturn transit. It just so happens that I've thought a lot of thoughts today - unfortunately, all but the silly ones seemed to hurt me.

Ah, forget the stupid old deadlines! The soul needs silliness . . . Like imagining The Love Boat displayed on the sides of city buses. It's a screamer, I tell you. You're going to have a hard time topping that one.



By the way, I don't remember anyone on that show coming down with those nasty cruise ship viruses that we hear about these days.

Tis true. I comfort myself with the knowledge that it's possible to mess about in this forum and still manage to miss the deadlines