Hey Paul

Yepp exactly! Even with an aspect both planets are ill placed other than my main significator. It is just I am curious about the planetary dynamics here. Moon pretty much explains how things will play out. I looked at a friend's chart about someone calling her within an hour after I was running a chart. INterestingly enough she asked it when Asce was late degree of Aries. Moon/Venus did conjunct as well. The answer was NO. The girl was asking about her love calling her that day. Mutual application didnt work out on that at all. Spica is way too far away from Desc. I usually look at 1 deg orb.

I will let you know if anything happens. I doubt it.

cheers
CD

"Spica is way too far away from Desc. I usually look at 1 deg orb. "

Yeah me too, for some reason I decided Spica was at 19 degrees Libra, not 24 Libra. I think I was thinking of Serepentis at 19 Scorpio.

Personally I don't think it's favorable but I guess we'll see what happens.

I always understood 'heavy' planets to be those that typically travel slower, but obviously 'light' planets can in certain circumstances travel slower than those planets we'd normally refer to as 'heavy'. Just being pedantic in making sure that the important concept was the speed of the planet at the time of the horary rather than what it's average speed is.

I find this topic interesting, and you might want to visit another thread where we discussed the relative motion of the planets.

http://skyscript.co.uk/forums/viewtopic ... c&start=45

Page 4 of the thread I asked:

In the current transits where Saturn is collecting light of Venus and Mars, and there is a Jupiter-Saturn opp, Jupiter is usually the faster body than Saturn but he is currently retro/slow. Would we still say that Saturn collects the light of Jupiter and not vice versa?

Goran's helpful response:

Yes, provided Jupiter is one of the significators and is applying to Saturn by retrograde motion, we would say that he collects the light of Jupiter.

In other words, Saturn is still a collector of light of Jupiter, even though he was swifter than Jupiter at that time.

We also discussed this in another thread on page 2:
http://skyscript.co.uk/forums/viewtopic ... c&start=15

Tanit

to sum this up, you guys are saying that treat retrograde planet as a natural speed?
INTERESTING!

thanks
CD