Seiko thanks none of these places you said seem right.

Stan

I wished I was better with lost items. I have never ever got one right. I am much better with loads of other things too.

Stan

SteveGus habitual routine sounds likely.

Thanks
Stan

stanstar wrote:SteveGus thanks I looked on the fireplace as Mars is in Leo fire. Not there not looked in dining rom yet. Why dining room Steve?

My understanding is that great halls and palaces are places associated with Leo. (So are wilderness areas inhabited by ferocious beasts.) A room associated with entertaining guests is probably the closest modern analogue to a great hall. And if it's in a wilderness inhabited by beasts, you are probably out of luck anyways.

Steve the dining room IS the room where we invite guests. Interesting.
I will look there.

Stan

SteveGus I feel you are on track. Are you a newbie to horary at all? If so, I think you are well on your way here. Thanks

Stan

I can give hints here on my psychology in as much as I almost always hide or place important documents in safe places where I can always find them. This said, I can never remember where I put them. I know I sound a bit crazy but I am.

Stan

How do you know he's on track if you haven't found it yet. Not that this is a competition or anything.

Hope you find it, so we can compare notes, so to speak.

It's none of my business but it's interesting that you need to hide things in different places. Anyway, Saturn makes an aspect with Mars, L2. Both are in each others Detriment so it's not a good sign.

The Moon makes an aspect with reception with Jupiter that's a good sign. Unless Jupiter represents (being in the 8th) someone else's possessions, which would not be a good sign, esp. because the Moon separates from Saturn (ie, the Querent in this case) and then applies to a planet in the 8th.

Besides, Mars rules both L2 and L7. So it wouldn't be a surprise if the item is in someone else's possession at the moment.

But that's a guess. So we have Leo vs Cancer, plus, Mars says you're not gonna find it, the Moon says you will find it (well, that is, if Jupiter is your friend). Let the game begin!

Just kidding. Good luck finding it.

Dear Seiko I do appreciate your help here honestly. I was giving SteveGus encouragement in his horary judgement as I noticed that he had only 4 posts here up until now. Also the places he was telling me to look were the places where I know I am liable to put things. I am almost 90% sure it is in my home. But not in the kitchen or the bathroom or my shower room as I would never put it there. Anyway these rooms are cleaned every day and they are almost empty of things. I might put money notes in a book but I would never put my driving license in a book. I went on holiday maybe 5 times since I last saw it. Maybe only once I may have needed it on holiday. I must have taken then which would have been last March. I never carry a wallet. so that would never be a place at all. I was looking through my desk drawer here and found my birth certificate yesterday, but not my driving license. Normally my wife keeps things like birth certificates in her bedroom. So I am capable of putting it safe but where I don't kow.

Stan

Seiko you said
So try looking in 'watery' places, the Moon near the MC so it may be a bit to the South.
My room is south so that is on target as far as I am concerned. My desk, and bookshelf.

Stan

stanstar wrote:SteveGus I feel you are on track. Are you a newbie to horary at all? If so, I think you are well on your way here. Thanks

I am pretty much a noob at horary; studied some astrology in the early 1970s, but was daunted by the math back when it had to be done by hand. Became interested in it again as a result of Wikipedia; I've edited it for about eight years now, and noticed that the astrology articles were in a rather sorry state. So my interpretations so far are going to be pretty much by the book.

Sounds to me like you probably ought to consider buying a strongbox.

At any rate, I noticed that Mars was peregrine when I set it up locally. That is not good. My understanding is that peregrine means rootless or travelling; this suggests to me that the license is somewhere it doesn't belong, and that perhaps someone has moved it from where it was cached.

There may also be some cultural dissonance. I can't imagine hiding a driver's license, because here a driver's license is a document you must carry and produce on demand whenever you are driving in a car; and in the States we drive everywhere. It's come to function as an identification card and internal passport, though that wasn't the original purpose. People asked to "show ID" are expected to show a driver's license; you have to go through some hassle to get an official ID if you don't or can't drive, and those IDs are always looked on as inferior.

So if you lost it, my starting assumption was that it was lost while being carried. If it's needed for some other official purpose there, it might be wisest to set the wheels in motion to produce a replacement.