Prices for the scoreline:

1-0 15,00 0-0 14,00 0-1 8,25
2-0 26,00 1-1 _7,50 0-2 9,00
2-1 17,00 2-2 15,00 1-2 8,25
3-0 60,00 3-3 48,00 0-3 15,00
3-1 35,00 4-4 225,0 1-3 14,00
3-2 38,00 2-3 22,00
4-0 180,0 0-4 26,00
4-1 110,0 1-4 25,00
4-2 110,0 2-4 40,00
4-3 160,0 3-4 90,00

I am sure both teams will try hard. 2-1 seems like an option, but if ManC pannic and do something silly, it could easily slip to 3-1. But I wish there was more astrological evidence.
The scoreline is certainly the magic key, but we ain't got it - yet!

Goca wrote:Newcastle with black/white sport kit gets 1st house ruler Me. Therefore Ju is the ruler of MC. Moon VOC, draw or favorite wins. Ju on MC controls success of Newcastle. But with Moon so close to IC, MC will win.

Newcastle 0 : 2 Man City

Goca wrote:Newcastle with black/white sport kit gets 1st house ruler Me. Therefore Ju is the ruler of MC. Moon VOC, draw or favorite wins. Ju on MC controls success of Newcastle. But with Moon so close to IC, MC will win.

Unfortunately, I couldn't quite figure out what you meant. Either way, I was obviously leaning the wrong way.

Congratulations Goca on getting the result but, like Andrew, I was not sure what you meant by:

Goca wrote:Newcastle with black/white sport kit gets 1st house ruler Me. Therefore Ju is the ruler of MC.

Why does the black/white kit (Saturn?) give them L1? And how does this make Jupiter ruler of the MC You are probably on to something, but I can't follow your logic. Any explanation would be helpful. Thanks.

Graham

Jupiter rules Man City rather than the MC.

Whatever..I feel that the home system doesn't work, if we use the favourite's ruling LI then it or Goca's system seems to work better from experience.

This is the perfect pit for research. Keep the ideas coming!

GB wrote:Congratulations Goca on getting the result but, like Andrew, I was not sure what you meant by:

Goca wrote:Newcastle with black/white sport kit gets 1st house ruler Me. Therefore Ju is the ruler of MC.

Why does the black/white kit (Saturn?) give them L1? And how does this make Jupiter ruler of the MC You are probably on to something, but I can't follow your logic. Any explanation would be helpful. Thanks.

Graham

I use color method to asign ASC and DSC. So ruler of ASC is Me/white in Ar/black. Or, there is another way, Me always means 2 colors, so definatelly ASC ruler represent Newcastle. That means DSC ruler must be M. City. Ju means blue in Ta again blue. All fits.
Then planet on a cusp of house control that house (Ju on cusp of 10th) Moon on less then 2 degrees on angles a strong testimony for corresponding team wining.
It seams you do not understand that MC in my post means Man City

It seams you do not understand that MC in my post means Man City.

MC is an abbreviation generally used in astrology for the Medium Coeli, while Manchester City is generally abbreviated to ManC. In addition, Jupiter was on the cusp of the 10th house, or the MC, so I am sure everyone assumed you meant that Jupiter took domain of the MC, even though it strictly didn't rule it. I expect we will all get it right next time.

Aftermath:

How did Liverpool beat Chelsea 4-1 in this chart?
Could this be a good way to work with the problem as to track down the result and scoreline? I'm not sure it can be done, but one testimony would be if Chelsea were shown as scoring - and Liverpool much stronger. I notice that the Moon needs 4# to leave Sagittarius, while Venus, L7, only needs 1# to trine Saturn.

In previous replies I suggested to monitor the condition of Jupiter and Chelsea's play together with the Moon's transits through the signs sensitive for Jupiter.

I am quite sure that Chelsea is ruled by Jupiter and Liverpool is Scorpio ruled by Mars.

As we see, Scorpio is rising which in general is a strong testimony for Liverpool. Mars and Jupiter are in the same triplicity (ruled by Venus in Gemini), exchanging reception from each other's detriment. This, in general, is an indication for draw. The triplicity ruler Venus is in Gemini, in the 10th sign from Mars but in detriment of Jupiter, this swings the balance in favour of Mars. Jupiter is combust but not so close to be fatal.

The key is the Moon. Moon is in Sagittarius which must favour Chelsea. It at least must be a testimony that Chelsea would score. The Moon is separating from Venus (dispositor of Jupiter, placed in his detriment and is applying to Mercury, the enemy of Jupiter and dispositor of Mars. This was the crucial testimony, deadly sure.

Rosenborg - Odd Grenland, 20.00 CEST
Odds: 1,40 4,50 7,50
Asc 9SC50 MC 7VI31 Moon 27TA30 POF 7SC31
Day Sun, Hour Moon - radical by agreement powers with asc

Rosenborg should get this one and score atleast 2 goals.
Mars, L1, is in the 10th and * the Asc. POF is sextile the MC.
Mercury, L10, is in the 7th and mr. Venus L7 - whether this allows Odd Grenland to score a goal will be interesting to see. The Moon is VOC, but is applying to the Sun in the next sign. In horary I think this would signify an agreement on a matter that had been through a revision.

Ok - here's one that didn't work out as expected:

Rosenborg - Odd Grenland 0-0
Of course, the Moon was in the same triplicity as Mars, Lord of the ascendant. This is one of our favourite cues for the draw. The Moon is special in this chart - also by her relationship to the ascendant, where is sympathetic by powers, yet she still receives her fall.

The sextiles related to in the above post are cast through signs of long ascension. Rosenborg had the expectations but were given a bad experience.

If we come across aonther match with a similar type of radicality, or relationship between the Lord of the Hour and the radical ascendant - please remind me to make a comparison.