cosmicdolphin,

Your above post is addressed to algaya, however, some of my thoughts. It is not Querent who would going against her logic to marry into that family. Jupiter in Cancer is a highly religious person, temporarily acting against his best judgement.

One is entitled to have whatever set of beliefs but marriage is not of individuals. It is between families.

My advice to Querent:

See the right palm of groom. If his line of head and line of Life are joined at the beginning. She is dealing with an orthodox person who would revert to the belief and value system of his parents/family/tribe after the age of 35.

If his line of life is sharp and good looking, he is attached to his father.

If his line of mind is sharp and good looking, he is attached to his mother.

Now have a look at his lines of fate and line of life.

If line of fate at the beginning is attached to the lower part of life, or it springs from the line of fate. She is dealing with a person who would be attached to his family for the rest of his life and would like to remain close to them. If the line of fate is independent. Otherwise.

See at the minimum distance between line of mind and line of heart. If it is narrow,his outlook on life is cramped and while valuing anything his personal motives reign supreme. If the distance is wide. Open minded person.

About his fathers objections. Maybe the groom is heavily insured for serving in war zones and his widow (God forbid) might be entitled to pension and other benefits. His father wants him to return safely from the war zone and then he might think about the arrangement with a girl who is consistent with the norms of his family.

Morpheus

The point is not changing the guy's faith.. his problem is the family will not accept her meaning that if they have kids, they might not see their grandpa or brother. Wanna know something funny? The girl originally was baptized in Orthodox Christian church and did follow Christianity but some blind uneducated sheep swerved her from the faith, same type of lunatics as her groom's father. So she stands at the corner of the decision to go back to her roots which again is eastern which differs from the western take on faith. I studied Early Christianity out of the boredom Western Christianity is all about the written word vs Eastern which has holy icons as the story telling, for instance, art works of Duccio who pretty much painted a lot of part from book of John (if my memory serves me right). If I were her and I am very brutal, I would tear that old man apart just on what he thinks he knows about the Bible and faith but hey, that is just me. I love arguing over historical events, it is my forte.
I think the groom lost somewhat respect to his father after he claimed that he felt he was used. Its very interesting horary. Family of the groom is very divided. Brothers and one sister don't really see each other. The groom has very difficult relationship with his mom. The most interesting convo occurred between the bride and myself. She said "what is this old man whining about? if anything Christian orthodox belief system came in as early as 2nd century and these non-denominationals didn't show up until they branched out from Protestants and Church of England thanks go Henry the 8th. As far I am concerned, he should stfu! What's he gonna do? Label me as a heretic and burn me at the stake?" I had a good laugh. 13th century style of argument. I have been on this planet long enough to say I NEVER EXPECTED to see this kind of a religious feud going on in 21st century or actually have a horary chart that pretty much tells the story *THANKS AGLAYA!*

I will find out the lines and report. I think the guy left to middle east already. I will do my best to find out!

cheers
CD

Two different versions of what morality is:

My favorite Jonathan

http://www.ted.com/talks/jonathan_haidt ... _mind.html


and this one might be Querent's favorite. Sam Harris


http://www.ted.com/talks/sam_harris_sci ... right.html

Hey Morpheus

Thanks for the links.. I am watching 1st one as we speak.

Will def Update if anything major happens or I hear something about it.

So far both the querent and quested are keeping their lips shut. They are working on things with each other. Marriage talk is still on the table.

Let's hope it stays that way.

Cheers all
CD

Outcome

As the chart showed, it is not worth of a hassle. Here is one interesting part. When Merc changed sign - it entered Pisces where it is extremely weak meaning feeling out of the box or not in own skin. I found that interesting because she tried to fit into his life but she had to change who she was. That did not sit well with her, as Merc had gone retro,she went back to her original Self. The horary chart was right. He is Jupiter cancer and retro fits, a good guy but screwed up. She moved on.

Good work, everyone
CD

Thanks for the outcome.
But their aspects do not meet up .... Mercury goes retrograde moving away from Jupiter...and doesn't catch up, they become so far away. Its too bad!