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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:00 am
by Larxene
ea wrote:Thank you for elaborating, Larxene. One problem here with the 6th and the 12th houses though is that you don't necessarily have to go on a journey to get injured or sick :-? .

ea
Yes, but all houses have more than one signification. So for the 12th for example: illnesses, injuries, depression, foreign travel, etc. So any one of them can happen. It's like chess I guess. Even within one opening tree there are several lines with different ideas and strategies. For example, in the Sicilian Defense, there's the Open Sicilian or Closed Sicilian, and within the Open Sicilian there's the d6 and e6 lines...and so on. So we cannot get the line we want to play in every game.

Sometimes, none of the characteristic 12th house significations occur, especially when the planets ruling the place are well-placed and helped by benefics in the solar revolution, and the other time lords show a positive period. But when the time lords are ill-placed or even simply weakened, the likelihood of misfortune will increase.


Paul wrote:The way I understand it is that all the cadent places indicate a moving away from the situation or the places of activity - so all the cadent places suggest something away from centre stage. So the cadent houses represent any kind of travel or movement like that. In particular 3 and 9, with aspects to to the ascendant, represent this idea of travel.

However the 7th, rather than being travel itself per se, represents the place opposite to what you know or opposite to the current situation. So can be the destination that one travels to, or could be the 'other' place.
Yes, this is symbolised by the struggle between diurnal and planetary motion. In the 12th, planets try to move towards the Horospokos, but are pulled away from it by diurnal motion. Hence, it is a struggle to stay alive (Horoskopos => life).

A similar idea to the 7th being the 'other place', is that of domicile and detriment. Domicile literally means 'house', while detriment is the state of being opposite one's house. That's why I prefer to call it 'being in exile'; it's like being exiled from one's home country.

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 12:08 pm
by ea
Larxene wrote: Sometimes, none of the characteristic 12th house significations occur, especially when the planets ruling the place are well-placed and helped by benefics in the solar revolution, and the other time lords show a positive period. But when the time lords are ill-placed or even simply weakened, the likelihood of misfortune will increase.
Oh yes, very good point, these things are of course always important to consider. Thank you for the reminder :)

ea

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 8:30 pm
by Becca
The 4thH from the 4thH > 7thH is The Home Away From Home or House of Another.

I know someone who went overseas one year and in the SR of one of their family members, the person's daughter, there was a 7thH emphasis and an opposition between the Moon in Taurus and Mars in Scorpio that would result in conflict. At first glance I had far fetched thoughts of, God forbid, some sort of human trafficking or rape given the vile nature of the place they were going to but it was abuse - a forceful assault. The 7thH being doubly apt as the house of Enemies and the event, an attack against the young woman's mother.