Thanks for natal data for new Pope!

Greetings,
Goca

I applauded Kien?s effort to give us his judgement before the event, and I was hoping he would be correct (I have no preferences either way). But I think Kien and all of us will learn more from this if we make an honest evaluation. You seem to have put a very positive spin on this in hindsight Siraxi. Don?t you think that horary becomes pretty worthless if we have to wait until after the important event to discover details that make the horary descriptive?

To say that there is some connection to the issue because the 9th house cusp of the horary rises on the ascendant of the new Pope is one thing (although of all the connections that are possible, something apparently important was bound to connect between the two charts). To suggest that the horary therefore describes him exactly and we couldn?t ask for more precision is a stretch too far for me. And no, I dont' think this shows that we can use any newspaper headline to create a valid horary

Sue made a relevant comment in the new UK election thread, and since there is an issue worth discussing here, that affects a number of recent posts, it seems like a good idea to create room for it in a new discussion where the principle of ?mundane horaries? (I actually think that is a contradiction in terms) can be discussed in a way that isn?t tied into any one chart.

Sorry your prediction didn?t work Kien. I?m going to raise your question

?Do you think if give this chart to an experienced astrologer, a correct prediction could be made? Or that the chart is not relevant enough ??

in the new post headed Mundane Horaries. I think this was probably less about your technique than the nature of the question around which the chart was framed and the basic premise of the personal ?need to know? being lacking. But I?ll write a little more on that in the new thread and hopefully you will get opinions from others too.