Wade wrote:

pankajdubey wrote:I wish the querent had asked, "Will my situation change for the better ?"
But we can't force the questions on the querent.

but would it have mattered? the wording of the question is insignificant -- what matters is the intent. the querent's circumstances don't change by wording the question differently. we would have resulted in the same chart, because this chart perfectly captures the nature of the dilemma the querent is in.

I think it could.Most astrologers in one to one consultation ,when seeing a stricture could have asked- is that really your worry ?

Now, consider this, the querent has a fight with No.2 in the organisation and thinks that this action would most logically get her/him fired , but the no.1 in the organisation was actually waiting for this opportunity to set no.2 in his/her place.So the no.1 takes a lenient view of the querent and actually fires the No.2.
This scenario is much better addressed with the question: "Will my situtaion change for the better ?"

So me thinks.

PD

Hi all,

To answer the above question about Jupiter/changing signs/mutual reception - yes. I didn't want to read this chart because in the past I've read charts with strictures against judgment and the result diverted from what the chart said and I felt it wouldn't be accurate. I am not focusing on the mutual reception. I just felt the horary was telling me the querent is in a bad situation and won't be fired despite the bad situation.

About the wording of the question - as others have stated - this chart reflects the situation and if the question had changed so would've the chart. At the moment of the question the querent was approached by leadership to discuss a tense situation. The querent was practically cornered, but also the querent felt they didn't have a chance to express themselves as clearly as they wanted. Part of the question has this "since this has cropped up will I get another chance to clarify with leadership?" Even now the querent has reached out to me to tell me about the stress and asked for advice about whether to approach leadership and request a change.

A bit late to this one. In passing accurate judgement it would help to have more details about the querent's actual situation.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned reception. Saturn sits on the Asc but is in the sign of Mars. The Moon and Saturn exhibit negative reception (in one another's debilities). Saturn on the Asc, to me, just represents that the querent probably feels very fearful and limited by the situation. This is also shown by the Moon/Mars in the 8th house and Mars combust. But Saturn is retrograde which means he is slowly but surely backing off and I would look at the sign change of the Asc as also being of a freeing nature. The Sun is also moving away from Mars (rather than Mars moving toward the Sun), and so the negative influence of combustion is waning, not waxing and this creates a very different scenario. Mercury (Boss) and the Moon are conjoined by Antiscion, and this by separation which again within the context means that there is a loosening of the tensions or even fears that exist. The North Node in the 10th also bodes well for the querent's job (and is trine to the Moon by antiscion, and I only mention this because I feel it reinforces this theme). We should also note that the 12th house is Scorpio, showing the querent is his own worst enemy in this situation. This would suggest that much of his fear or sense of limitation (Saturn) is his own doing (because Saturn is in the sign of Mars and therefore subordinate to Mars).

Mercury as the boss is really in no way configured in a negative manner with any of the key significators, nor is it in bad reception with any of those significators, and the Sun, which universally could represent authority or a boss/superior is separating from Mars, while Saturn (another general significator of authority) is backing off from the Asc. Therefore I don't see why the querent should lose his job even if he may remain unhappy in his current circumstances due to the Moon's application to Saturn.

My experience with these kinds of situations is that we need to subordinate what is going on in the chart to the question and thus to the main significators. In this case that is the 1st/L1 and the 10th/L10. Perhaps Saturn shows worries over money (Capricorn intercepted in the 2nd) for example, etc.

I don't believe this was answered. I didn't lose the job. Huge thanks to everyone who participated!

gs53 wrote:Querent is Mars and Moon, to be fired is 10th house matter, ruler is Mercury.
With Sa rx in 1st house and Moon in 8 house at the very start we have No answer.That confirms lack of applying aspect between rulers.

So, my analyse was right. Thanks for the feedback.

Glad to hear an update. Though I predicted not losing the job it's interesting to note that using whole sign houses both benefics are placed in the 10th, showing stability in matters pertaining to one's job.