Hi jupiter1st,

Comments below.

jupiter1st wrote:Felipe, you said the Moon would aspect Mars. Mars rules the opposition and opposition to government should have won. You don't seem to consider the orbs of Moon's aspects. Possibly because she rules the flow of events and she is too fast. The point is, she would also oppose Venus (10th lord) when she travels through last degrees of Virgo. Why didn't you take it into account? As far as I know her last aspect determines the outcome.(winner) That can also explain why the government has won. What do you think?

The technique I use gives the winner to the next aspect. I have judged a number of charts on political elections accurately using that technique. It simply means: "who the people choose".

So I see two scenarios as far as horary technique is concerned:

1)
This chart is "yours" so we have to judge it according to your technique. Which gives the correct asnwer.

2)
The result is NOT due to the people's choice; there are other forces at play. Which to me, the chart shows, and the news about your country hint at. I have seen this in two more charts on the subject.

A third scenario would be that we do not know the final result yet and it may change. Unlikely, it appears, though.

SteveGus - Thanks so much for the time and place info.

You are right with your prediction that the outcome might had been already decided. Although I do not know who you think the outcome cld have been decided, but we have enough evidence here it is the goverment who decided it ! They simply changed the rules of election - which is totally against law - after the election was over! Of course they had already planned it because they knew they wld. Loose otherwise.

And your prediction with Saturn moving into 12th , so that it is mischief. %100 accurute !

Felipe - You say in your last post that " we shd judge the chart according to your rules because its yours" This really confuses me i.e. What if Jupiter1st did not know horary at all , how wld. We judge and/ or understand the chart ? Or how wld. We know if any personal tecnique is accurute and if we can apply it to other charts . This referandum was so soon after we ereceted the charts. What if it was 2 years later? Or can we judge referandum charts according to countries they are held i.e. No corruption in this country, so apply Moon tecnique! There may be corruption , personal teckniques!

I am novice to horary, there are so many things to learn. But I think this Moon tecnique really sounds. When I look at Jupiter1st' s chart and my chart , what I think is that we were not accurute because we did not consider Jupiter's antiscion.

Breeze wrote:You say in your last post that " we shd judge the chart according to your rules because its yours" This really confuses me i.e.

Astrologers from diferent lineages can approach charts differently and arrive at the same conclusion. So, I like to allow that option open.

I know the Moon aspect technique is correct. Jupiter1st mentioned the "last" aspect within the sign. That does not sound far-fetched to me, even though I would not use that in my practice. I've seen that work in sports event charts.

Breeze wrote:What if Jupiter1st did not know horary at all , how wld. We judge and/ or understand the chart ?

We know Jupiter1st knows enough. If somebody does not know enough we can deal with that when the situation arises.

Breeze wrote:I am novice to horary, there are so many things to learn. But I think this Moon tecnique really sounds. When I look at Jupiter1st' s chart and my chart , what I think is that we were not accurute because we did not consider Jupiter's antiscion.

I totally agree. Jupiter's antiscion AND Saturn angular in MR with Jupiter.