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133 by nipoleon
Mark
Your fully entitled to your view but at the end of the day its remains just that , another view to add to the pot. On a traditional forum like Skyscript your obviously going to get a lot of people disagreeing with you if you seek to dismiss the 5 degree rule. I also know some modern astrologers who apply a 3 degree variation of this. The logic being the influence of the cusp draws the planet into the neighbouring house.
We must all adopt our analysis to what we have observed to actually work. If you read the books on Hoary analysis from Lilly to the present you'll notice that all the authors develop their own styles according to what they have observed. What works for them ( and I do think Lilly was the most right on astrologer in history ).

Personally, I like to keep my own style very simple. Cast the chart. Look at the planets in the houses. What standing do they have and what are they doing. What just happened? What is happening now? What will happen next?

I don't believe in going much deeper than that. It's very easy to fall into rabbit holes of arcane details and never make a judgement on the question. Or rather, make excuses for why the judgment didn't work out.
" That square was really a trine and that planet really goes over there ".

I know, astrologers can be very prickly about what they think is dogma but astrology is not a religion. Everything we think of in astrology is knowledge that's been passed down from person to person through the ages. Every practitioner has adopted what he found worked for him and rejected what didn't.

Astrology is an art and each astrologer must be an artist with their own style and vision. Astrology must be practical and we must share what we learn with others. Ultimately, simply theorizing about things isn't good enough.
We must have the courage to make a prediction on the charts and admit to whether our predictions were right or wrong.

134 by Tanit3333
Mark - Maybe you sent the PM to my old account (which is inactive)? I don't have any PMs in this account. My old account is Tanit and my new account is Tanit3333. Deb inactivated the other one when I asked her to back in 2009 or so.

135 by WooWoo
Well said Nip !

Astrology is Tool.

And of course you actually post your Judgements on Record for everybody to see ...

Respect.

I want Biden to win so it is easy for me to see Jupiter supporting his natal Mercury and his MC.

Further he was released by Saturn recently too.

Trump I feel has loads of -VE transits with Jupiter probably arriving too late.

The Node passing over his own Node in Late Oct.

Yikkes !

And Pluto applying to his natal Mars to Station right on it in Late April.

Just as the US Economy sinks below the Waves ?

In this case it is Keep It Simple ....

I also think Jupiter's move into Aquarius is a Democratic Signature.

H

137 by Tanit3333
The medieval astrologer Bonatti who was one of the originators of the so called 'battle chart' always taught that in a conflict the superior planets were stronger in a conflict than the inferior planets
Mark - I missed this comment earlier and this is precisely what I meant about Mars being stronger than Venus when everything else is equal, being a superior to Venus. I would also argue that here Mars has similitude and Venus doesn't as it is below the earth in a day chart (hayz) while Venus is above (halb), both being nocturnal planets.

138 by Tham
If one goes by his natal chart alone, Donald Trump
looks unstoppable.

Quasars outshine virtually everything in the universe.

Trump has a quasar just two degrees from his Sun,
in the tenth house of government.


I believe that quasar is 3C147. Converted from its right
ascension, 3C147 's longitude works out to be at 25 Gemini.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3C_147


That's why he is so successful in both business and politics.


As Alex Miller notes -

'' Sun/Quasar people have the knack of being in
the right place at the right time, to meet those whose
help they need to attain their goals. ''



Trump also has -

Regulus, the Royal Star of the Lion, and asteroid
America right at his AC.

Algol right at his MC.

Algol gives him the capability to rise above all opposition.
Those with strong Algol influences in their natal chart have
the power to handle just about anything.

Algol people are fearless warriors and leaders. They will
fight thru fire and hell to reach their goals.

(Try to look me in the eye, and you'll turn to stone.)


Trump has exactly the right asteroid, star and quasar combinations.

So I wouldn't be surprised if he brushes off Biden
for another four years in the White House.


However, Algol's fearless Medusa warrior-like nature
obviously also confers a high risk of bodily harm to the
native, particularly that of assassination, possibly by a
shot to the head or neck.

That risk is heightened by Mars next to Regulus.

139 by zoidsoft
Tham wrote:Algol right at his MC.

Algol gives him the capability to rise above all opposition.
Those with strong Algol influences in their natal chart have
the power to handle just about anything.

Algol people are fearless warriors and leaders. They will
fight thru fire and hell to reach their goals.
The most common thing said about Algol is decapitation or "losing ones head". Do we just pick and choose what we want to see that supports our version of "astrology" now?
Curtis Manwaring
Zoidiasoft Technologies, LLC

140 by Mark
Zoidsoft wrote:
The most common thing said about Algol is decapitation or "losing ones head". Do we just pick and choose what we want to see that supports our version of "astrology" now?
From looking at numerous astrological analysis of this election I am afraid the answer is often yes. As a case in point look at Biden's transiting Neptune on his IC. Astrologers like Maurice Fernandez and Lynne Bell have argued this could strengthen Biden as it shows him channelling the popular collective will. Both were on online events on the US Election. (ISAR and OPA) where they put over these views. However, other astrologers see this as clear testimony Biden is fated to lose with Neptune opposing his MC.

I have also noted several Democrat leaning astrologers from the US emphasizing Trump's difficult transits while seeming to have a total myopia regarding the challenging transits Biden is facing.

They cant both be right can they? Unless of course they are both are wrong! As you and others have pointed out Biden's data is only A rated 'from memory' and his 08.30am birth time looks a bit suspicious. Born just a few minutes earlier Biden could be Scorpio rather than Sagittarius rising.

Mark
As thou conversest with the heavens, so instruct and inform thy minde according to the image of Divinity William Lilly

141 by Tanit3333
Bernadette Brady did give some positive attributes to Algol's power but with the caveat that only if its power is used properly.

https://www.skyscript.co.uk/algol.html

I agree it is usually considered a negative. It is, afterall, the most evil star in the heavens. It can increase violence, mob mentality and irrational behavior. These are attributes Trump has shown he supports but he also has Mars on the ascendant. My guess is the two contribute to his aggressive personality. He has also been wrapped up in a lot of public attention relating to his treatment and views on women, and I think Algol makes a lot of sense here.

I recently read about an artist who made a feminist interpretation of medusa that was pretty interesting. It made me feel less ashamed of having Sun conjunct Algol. Medusa has always been one of my favorite Greek myths.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com/qua ... -rage/amp/

142 by james_m
this algol conversation keeps on coming up!!

it is a 3 star system that seems to have a cycle of its own... until we figure out how that works - the options are your oyster, lol...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algol

mark, i agree with you..clearly astrologers leaving their bias at the door is next to impossible... there is a reason for the multitude of views on who is going to win on pretty well any race, although the one we are talking about here is another fine example..

143 by Tanit3333
I am starting to wonder if maybe the voting will lead to civil unrest and mob violence. That could explain Algol in my election chart. I keep wondering why a retro dignified malefic keeps showing up on my real estate home price questions (a drop in prices coming) and maybe it is because something bad is coming. I hope not...
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